Cutting Freshmen

[kneebon5]

This is one of the biggest annoyances so far in the game, and I don't get the need for it.


Right now, we can't cut incoming recruits from the team, so if you happen to get a large class, and then find out oh, i went overboard on this, or this guy is only a 58, there is no way to remove him, and you are forced to keep that player for the entire year, while cutting a better player.



I just dont understand the logic on this, people get cut from the team at any point in real life, so why has EA created a management situation, where you are forced to keep every recruit for at least a year?


Is it because they changed it to encourage to transfer? And freshmen can't transfer before the year?



I just dont get the decision made for this, just call it transfer/cut and let us drop bad freshmen, otherwise expanding to 85 didn't really do us any good.



end of vent

[ahunter5]

Can teams just refuse to honor a scholarship as soon as a kid gets to campus? I'm not sure that's actually a thing that happens outside of serious injury or criminal behavior.

[sherrane]

Quote: Originally Posted by kneebon5

This is one of the biggest annoyances so far in the game, and I don't get the need for it. Right now, we can't cut incoming recruits from the team, so if you happen to get a large class, and then find out oh, i went overboard on this, or this guy is only a 58, there is no way to remove him, and you are forced to keep that player for the entire year, while cutting a better player. I just dont understand the logic on this, people get cut from the team at any point in real life, so why has EA created a management situation, where you are forced to keep every recruit for at least a year? Is it because they changed it to encourage to transfer? And freshmen can't transfer before the year? I just dont get the decision made for this, just call it transfer/cut and let us drop bad freshmen, otherwise expanding to 85 didn't really do us any good. end of vent

How often does it happen that a high school kid will sign a LOI and get cut before the season for anything other than discipline reasons? I don't think I can recall that happening. I would think that would hurt you as a recruiter in real life because players may not trust there is a spot for them.

[kneebon5]

Quote: Originally Posted by ahunter5

Can teams just refuse to honor a scholarship as soon as a kid gets to campus? I'm not sure that's actually a thing that happens outside of serious injury or criminal behavior.

How many times is a team limited to 85 spots on the roster? Kid can still go to class for free, just get him off my team.

[mcavner]

Something that should be fixed. If you can drop a junior, you can drop a freshman.

[sherrane]

Quote: Originally Posted by kneebon5

How many times is a team limited to 85 spots on the roster? Kid can still go to class for free, just get him off my team.

How? A kid who signs an LOI for football has to go to school for at least 2 semesters. You can't reclaim the scholarship because he isn't good enough. That is what the preferred walk-on is for. From the link below (my emphasis added):



What is the National Letter of Intent (NLI)?


The NLI is a binding agreement between a prospective student-athlete and an NLI member institution.
• Prospective student-athlete agrees to attend the institution full-time for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters).
• Institution agrees to provide athletics financial aid for one academic year (two semesters or three quarters).
Penalty for not fulfilling the NLI agreement: Serve one year in residence (full-time two semesters or three quarters) at the next NLI member institution and lose one season of competition in all sports.



NOTE: This is a PDF.

http://www.nationalletter.org/docume.../nli-guide.pdf




BTW: If a track athlete on scholarship for track makes the football team as a walk-on, he has to be given a football scholarship.

[sherrane]

Quote: Originally Posted by mcavner

Something that should be fixed. If you can drop a junior, you can drop a freshman.

It is already correct. You are obligated to honor the athletic scholarship for a period of 2 semesters. You also cannot cut a player you signed from the Transfer Portal for the same reason.

[georgiafan]

I like the ideal that you can't cut freshman and it goes along with making dynasty more realistic. I don't see that being something that's changed. I do wish the "encourage players to transfer" happened at the end of the year to make room on the roster to help with scholarships.

In normal circumstances, teams don't cut a bunch of true freshmen before they even start their career. Maybe they aren't any good and leave after 1 year, but they at least stay a year. If you have a small senior class of 12 it's not going to be the year to sign 25 guys. So I would use that as a year to try and land some higher ranked prospects. This also makes the scholarships you throw out mean a little more.

I wonder if the perk of a top 5 recruiting class plays a role in this. This could be a way to avoid people cheesing the system to sign a bunch of people just to cut them.