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NBA 2K12 Reviewer: My Player, More Modes!

NBA 2K has always thrived on their game modes. Association is considered one of the best franchise modes in sports games and My Player was a very quick success. This year, Association was barely touched, but My Player had a pretty big overhaul. But the problem is, that overhaul might not be enough to keep players interested in playing the mode.


 

My Player

The most popular mode in NBA 2K11 has made its return with plenty of improvements. Some are considered gimmicks, like the endorsements you can earn, but they are all pretty sweet. I love seeing myself on a billboard or in a commercial. Wearing my own signature shoe and shooting with my very own signature shot is awesome. But the gameplay and AI logic in the mode is what is really killing the fun.

I’m not sure if 2K tweaked the gameplay between the demo I had a month ago, or if I finally have had enough time to notice the problems. One of the biggest issues involves the consistent lag. Too often will the game slow down much like it has in past 2Ks. When you’re bringing the ball up it won’t affect you too much, but when you’re shooting from the post good luck executing that perfect release.

The scoring system is also improved, but still flawed. Unless you play a near-flawless game, you’ll be sitting in the C+ to B- range. But gone are the knocks when shooting full-court buzzer-beaters and when a teammate lets your man score.

The AI logic, which I raved about with my hands-on, feels just plain bad. It is improved from last year, so it’s a step in the right direction. But when Gortat starts bringing the ball up court and driving, there’s a huge problem. Teammates aren’t running around trying to get open, they sit in the corner waiting for the point to make something happen.

And the AI logic doesn’t stop there. The trade logic, which is bad in Association mode as well, is making me want to stop playing My Player. I’m a point who was drafted to Phoenix 13th overall, and in my first week Nash, Carter, Frye, Brooks, Gortat and Childress were all traded away. Instead we had a much better lineup, but entirely unrealistic. Chris Bosh made his debut in the desert after Miami decided Aaron Brooks and Vince Carter fit their team better. Stuckey and Gordon came over from Detroit, while Ariza and Jamal Crawford parted way with New Orleans and Atlanta, respectively. Week 1 in my second year, they traded Bosh, Gordon and Crawford at the deadline for Rashard Lewis and Trevor Booker – Phoenix was sitting in the second seed.

But outside of the problems, the mode still has plenty to offer. The mode starts off in the rookie showcase followed by pre-draft interviews. Next thing you know, you’re in the NBA (D-League is gone) as a 60-rated player. You won’t be starting anytime soon – I’m in my third year and have yet to get anything more than 15 minutes per game. 

Attributes are still expensive, but a newcomer has made its way into your purchasing. Abilities range from 9,000-15,000 points for the first upgrade. These abilities allow you to perform better moves such as crossovers, step-back jumpers and floaters.

Contracts are in the mode after everyone prayed for them. As a rookie you get no option to negotiate, but once you go into free agency let the bidding wars begin. With your salary you can spend it on more points, raise your popularity with teammates/media/fans or spend it on signature packages of your favorite NBA superstars.


The Greatest

To describe this mode in one word, I’d have to choose “wow.”

2K went all out with their legends this year. With 34 classic teams from all eras, dream match ups will become a reality.

Presentation has to be the big winner here. From the Lakers/Celtics match up from the 60s being in black and white, to the Bulls/Hornets game in Technicolor, 2K has made this mode worthwhile.

Not only do the games look fantastic, but the commentary took it to a brand new level. The trio of Kevin Harlan, Clark Kellogg and Steve Kerr bring the history out from each classic team. Instead of hearing straight up commentary about Gary Payton, you’ll hear Clark bust out knowledge of all the defensive accolades The Glove earned during his time in the NBA. The same goes for any other classic team.

In order to unlock the teams for quick play, you must beat the respective challenge. And once you have all the teams it’s great, but for some reason 2K has put a lot of restrictions on the legends. It’s a huge process to get legends in Association, and it isn’t even possible to take the teams online (even if you could, the servers have been terrible so far).

Association

I love Association. It’s my main mode of play, but this year nothing much has changed. Plus, thanks to the lockout, rookies don’t make an appearance. I didn’t think having them out of the game would hurt the fun factor of Association, but it really does take a toll. It's not 2K's fault.

One change is with the ability to lock up players mid-season. Also, once free agency hits, there will be both restricted and unrestricted free agents. It doesn’t do much to affect the overall gameplay of the mode, but it adds to the realism.

Just like I mentioned earlier, the trade logic is garbage. Duncan was traded for Nash, Ginobli was traded for Mo Williams and Westbrook was traded for Jeff Green. The only trade I saw that made perfect sense for both teams was when The Clippers and Pistons agreed on an Aminu/Prince swap.

I hate to leave this section so small, but the upgrades just didn’t make it this year.

Training Camp

There are 88 moves for you to learn from, all taught by legends such as Jordan, Bird and Olajuwon. It will take about an hour or so to go through each and every one of them, but it’s worth it for all 2Kers. Once you’re done with all 88, you will be able to go back and choose each lesson separately.

There isn’t much to say about this mode, except that it is a great addition to NBA 2K.

Final Thoughts

My Player is a disappointment, sadly. The glitches and AI logic, both on and off the court, are too much to handle. The improvements are great, but until a patch comes out it might keep me away from it for a while.

Aside from My Player having those problems and Association being nothing new, the game modes should keep you all playing for quite sometime. The Greatest mode is enough to keep me entertained, especially with the beautiful presentation – I can’t get over how great it looks.

Make sure to come back to OS tomorrow for the final review of NBA 2K12.


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# 21 Retropyro @ 10/07/11 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dajuice23
The only thing I want to touch on is your review of my player. If your still riding the bench after 3 years and only getting 15 mins per game thats not the games fault. It's YOUR fault. The NBA has an 82 game season. Odds are you didn't play all 82 and you chose to play just the key games. There are about 15 key games per year from things i've read around the net. Obviously your not going to progress if your playing 15 out of 82 games per year. Do the the math. I'm 11 games deep with the rockets and i'm already the 6th man. You have to put the work in if you want to be good.
I became a started by game 17. I've played every game so far and after 21 games my player is rated 70. You definitely need to grind it out and play each game and complete all drills in order to develop your player. Only playing Key games will not get you anywhere.
 
# 22 Siavash @ 10/07/11 05:53 PM
So, All the hype, And it's not a good game?!
 
# 23 TEE04 @ 10/07/11 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by houstonsportsfan
that's it that settles it i am not buying this game, i'll just buy something else.
So what!!!!!!
 
# 24 burter @ 10/07/11 08:36 PM
Last year I had changed the no trade clause to Yes on some of the star players for each team. It help it seemed. Wonder if it would work if say you do it for all the starters on each team.
 
# 25 RobRaptors5 @ 10/07/11 11:11 PM
In mine my goals was to go to a team that had never won that i liked and was rebuilding so when i went to the pistons i was pissed but than i demanded a trade to the raptors and now im good so honetsly my team sucks because in mine the raptors gave up michael beasley (who they got for barbosa) and julian wright for me and tashuan prince so i cant wait for trades so my team wont suck anymore!!!
 
# 26 jreezy18 @ 10/08/11 02:24 AM
Looks like 2KSports needs to patch My Player ASAP. I guess the time it takes to become a starter varies a lot because my shooting guard took Andre Iguodala's spot in about 14 games.
 
# 27 ryumeijin @ 10/08/11 04:11 AM
In my myplayer, there are only 3 rookies in he league, me, rubio and some undrafted guy. All of the players drafted with my player is nowhere to be found.. Are there any workaround for this?

And yeah, teams are trading like crazy. I was drafted by the warriors. They traded lee and monta in about a month ino the season.
 
# 28 malky @ 10/08/11 09:23 AM
While assocition offline didn't update that much, it did some fantastic things with presentation in offline association, plus for the first time, seems like I have a coaching budget for all the teams I control, rarely did any team in past editions have money to spend, if you wanted to fire your coach and hire a new one.
 
# 29 Jukeman @ 10/08/11 09:47 AM
Funny how the flaws like trade logic and etc are game killer now...A week ago when the association guys were "bitching" about the lack of improvements to the core mode (offline association) we was told to chill out and enjoy the new addictions like commercials..

Tried to warn people...






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# 30 Da Baller @ 10/08/11 09:56 AM
I think the main problem with Myplayer is the UNRESPONSIVENESS movement of players. If can never get my player to do an Up and Under when I want, and the movement with the ball is unresponsive and the animations of the movement still are a bit of a problem.



But that's my ONLY problem besides trade logic.
 
# 31 tril @ 10/08/11 10:19 AM
I dont think there is a problem with the my player logic.
In all the previews, 2k stated that the ultimate goal was to become a hall of famer.
how does one become a hall of famer, you must become the #1 or #2 man on a team. so the AI logic has to compenstae for this, otherwise youll spend countless of hours not gaining any experience.
2ks goal was to speed up the MY Player process, and thats what they did.

Maybe 2k has to find a middle ground between last year and this year, for the My Player mode.

I enjoy every aspect of the game. I personally think the game is doing what the developers intended it to do, and they let us all know this.
 
# 32 ryumeijin @ 10/08/11 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tril
I dont think there is a problem with the my player logic.
In all the previews, 2k stated that the ultimate goal was to become a hall of famer.
how does one become a hall of famer, you must become the #1 or #2 man on a team. so the AI logic has to compenstae for this, otherwise youll spend countless of hours not gaining any experience.
2ks goal was to speed up the MY Player process, and thats what they did.

Maybe 2k has to find a middle ground between last year and this year, for the My Player mode.

I enjoy every aspect of the game. I personally think the game is doing what the developers intended it to do, and they let us all know this.
if you play well your minutes will increase so will your production. if you suck then you don't deserve to be a HOFer. they don't need to trade the core of the team for you to gain sp.

It's a bug, like last year when the coaches will be fired and replaced even when winning.
 
# 33 jroc20boys @ 10/08/11 02:06 PM
I was on the rockets n man they sucked so I requested a trade to the bulls like I always do but 2 weeks we trade taj and Noah for ja Crawford n al horford then ther traded cj n korver for wes Matthews I'm also a sg so y make those trades plus we still have brewer and bogas and I think we traded deng I havent played in a couple days but I'm bout to make another one ASAP
 
# 34 Ike04 @ 10/08/11 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mike43978
I'm reading through a bunch of comments here and heres the problem with my player in 2k12 coming from someone who played myplayer a ton in 2k11 and went online and consistently got double double in points and assists with my point guard. My player mode 2k12. 8 Min quarters, All-Star difficulty (You just have to get used to it but it is a bit harder than pro but much funner and realistic) Drafted by the Jazz. Played first few games not much playing time, but it was awesome because the AI was actually not mentally retarted like they were in 2k11. Al Jefferson would rape in the post. After a couple more games, about 7 games in now, playing time increasing, the trades begin to happen. Al Jefferson traded away from Darren Collison, are you joking me? I'm a point guard and we have devin harris yet we need to get rid of our size and big man star down low? Then Paul Milsap gets traded away from OJ mayo, which i actually like this cause I'm making OJ one of the leading scorers in the NBA. More trades and the Jazz starting line up becomes this, Oh and I'm starting now after 9 games, don't know how the forum creator played 3 seasons and not starting, must be playing only key games or something. Anyway starting lineup: Me (PG), OJ Mayo (SG), Paul George (SF), Andrea Kirelnko (PF), Derrick Favors (C). Anyone see a problem with this lineup?? Anyone? Yeah no size at all, we get out rebounded like crazy, especially we give up alot of offensive rebounds. What I've learned about the AI in 2k12 if this. They are smart and good on these conditions. YOU HAVE to play realistically. Change things up. I think its easiest if your the point guard running the show. Use the new quick controls that tells your players to cut to basket or get open or post up. Share the ball. Don't be greedy. And do not think you can just dribble right in chris pauls face with the ball up against him and he's not gonna steal it. Get ball movement going, use the sweet new hot step layup improvements but kick it out for the wide open 3 if you get doubled. Most important of all don't give up on your players if they screw up one time, keep feeding them the ball. I'm now in my 17th game with 38 mins a game and i have to say 2k12 is the shiz...other than the ******* trades they really need to patch it so your team doesn't trade away your whole team, I purposely picked the Jazz because of Al Jefferson so i could get bunch of assists by driving then tossing it off to him for the easy dunk.
kinda the same way i feel about my player. i think people are downing on a mode which to me is way better than last year's by comparison. first off your ai teamates are actually a factor this year and can consistently score points for you so tht you dont have to get 30, 10 and 10 and still lose by 10 or 20. 2k has gone leaps and bounds over what they started with in 2k11 my player in many ways. and if you want to be successful in this mode, just like mike43978 said: you HAVE to play realistically or you will feel like playing something else. overall, this mode is amazing this year, and people need to stop being so quick to judge and really give my player a chance this year.
 
# 35 rynecandy @ 10/08/11 08:40 PM
Hmm..weird reading about trade logic in 2K12 because I'm in the middle of Dec with the Suns (ATH PF drafted #13) and only 3 trades have been made in the entire league. I'm not saying the game doesn't make horrible trades but so far I haven't experienced them. I thought I was playing All Star but noticed soon I was still on Pro but that's fine because I'm not that experienced in this game.
 
# 36 DustinT @ 10/08/11 11:49 PM
A lot of you are saying that I would get minutes an a starting spot if I played every game. I get that, but the whole point about the Key Game feature was to have an identical experience playing in 15 games rather than an 82-game season. It's another broken faucet in the game mode.

And when you're saying that if you play well, you'll get more minutes. I average 2.1/1.4/0.6 per minute. Field goal percentage is at 43...which is solid for a rookie point.

I did get rookie of the year, which didn't seem very realistic with only 10 minutes a game. Anyone else get this?
 
# 37 money111777 @ 10/09/11 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike04
kinda the same way i feel about my player. i think people are downing on a mode which to me is way better than last year's by comparison. first off your ai teamates are actually a factor this year and can consistently score points for you so tht you dont have to get 30, 10 and 10 and still lose by 10 or 20. 2k has gone leaps and bounds over what they started with in 2k11 my player in many ways. and if you want to be successful in this mode, just like mike43978 said: you HAVE to play realistically or you will feel like playing something else. overall, this mode is amazing this year, and people need to stop being so quick to judge and really give my player a chance this year.
Obviously, u guys have more patience than I do. Cus stupid bs keeps happening. My teammates suck, on offense and defense. Constantly miss wide open shots, and they cant guard on D if I would save their loves- wide open 3s CONSTATNTLY. My Player has ball security on 88 n I still lose the ball about 5 times a game. running my routes is near impposible-i keep gettin stuck on whoever is guarding me, causing the play to break up. Stupid ai teammates get beat in the post every time, and I cant call for a double, nor can I double myself because of course that would mean a wide open 3. Passing is impossible. The default game speed is entirely too slow, and cant b changed. Would b nice if I could do custom sliders for this mode because it is just unplayable as is. Im done playing it, I will wait for the update. If the update doesnt Imporove anything then I will sell this game or trade it in. Wish they would make My Player mode as it was on 2k10
 
# 38 MrCelafane @ 10/09/11 07:54 AM
That's not entirely true because I'm only playing key games and I'm near the all star break rated at 69 and I've been the starter on the Jazz since Dec. I play all the drills before moving on to the next key game because you get like 6 or 7 in between and you still seem to get SP on simulated games. I hate the fact that even though there was a draft there are only 2 rookies, me and Rubio.

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# 39 Spartan901 @ 10/09/11 10:44 PM
I sincerely hope SimBaller or Beluba or someone reads this because you hit the nail on the head, especially when it comes to MyPlayer and it needs to be patched BIG TIME. Its almost become unplayable for me. The trade logic is HORRIBLE. It seems like they went from one extreme to another. Last year in MyPlayer I was drafted by the Grizzlies and they didnt make a single trade the entire year. In 2k12, I've been drafted by the Knicks, and in my first season with about a month to go before the all-star game, Me, Carmello, and Ranaldo Balkman are the only original Knicks left on the roster.
First we traded Turiaf for De'Andre Jordan, and I was like "Hey, thats awesome". Then we traded Chauncey for Barron Davis and I was like "Um, ok this could still work". Then we traded Amare for Tim Duncan and i dropped the controller. Somewhere along the lines we got some other players from Golden State and Cleveland, but the main madness is what I just expressed. Some notable changes around the league: Bosh is in Phoenix, Manu is a Clipper, Blake Griffin is a Spur, Nash is in Miami.
Now on the court....the cpu hits WAAY too many 3's, especially when the shot clock is running down. Which is very frustrating and generally a cheap bail out because the cpu seems to take forever to get into their sets, especially if deny the ball from being passed to the man you're defending. And then they'll just dribble around for 22 seconds and then heave up a shot that hits nothing but net, sometimes a good 5 feet behind the arch. This should barely happen once a game. It happens a few times every quarter.
And our teammates are idiots. They dont run around and make cuts. When they do cut, half the time they don't finish the cut all the way, too many times you'll pass them the ball wide open and instead of taking the shot (Melo..I'm looking at you) they'll dribble into the defense and throw up some highly contested shot that of course misses. They leave their assignments wide open way too often. And for some reason if you give the ball to a big man (Center or PF) with 5 seconds or so left on the shot clock, they'll float out to the arch and hoist up a 3-pointer. Forgot to mention the psychic steals the defense pulls off where they dive for the ball before it comes out of your hand. PLEASE PATCH THIS GAME
 
# 40 sniperhare @ 10/09/11 11:16 PM
I still think it's to easy to move up the depth chart. I was drafted as a PG/SG to the Wizards and came in with 11 or 12 minutes, I only play key games and have progressed to a 65 OVR and am the 6th man with 24 minutes.
 


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