The Abomination That is Madden Nation

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by asu666

vickhalloffame? The name says it all. I've got some ideas, let's put Vick on the cover of Madden 2010 to help EA appeal to the core want-a-be street thug crowd. We could throw gold fronts in there as download content. Maybe hire some of the guys from Blitz to help "improve" the gameplay. If 2K football was still around this wouldn't even be an issue because people would have a viable alternative to turn to on an annual basis. The NFL and EA made a decision to go exclusive and they are letting down simulation fans with stripped down products and questionable (read cheesey) gameplay.

lol...well the first paragraph was pretty uncalled for. I actually know people who are Falcons fans who were once Vick fans and they aren't "want-a-be street thugs" but I won't spend too much more time on that silliness.

Actually, I think Vickhalloffame has a very valid point. We all know what Madden is and has been for some time now. Why get mad at people who play it for that, enjoy it for that, and make money for that? You or I, assuming we had the "Madden skills" to pull it off, have no less opportunity to win than they do. Anyone kind find and execute these exploits if they really want to. IMO, anyone who goes into a Madden tourny expecting a football competition is either brain dead or has been living under a rock for a few years. Again, we all know what Madden is. I find it as rediculous as anyone and refuse to continue a game with anyone who plays like that, but I guess it just doesn't offend me on a personal level. I think it was Kehlis who said something to the effect of this wouldn't generate so much anger if the game was less disappointing. He's probably right.

As for your second paragraph, I agree. I think another part of the anger is 2K fans lost their game to what many feel is an inferior product. That alone generates anger, but coupled with the fact that Madden hasn't even lived up to it's own "last gen" standards makes it a tough pill to swallow. Competition would equal a strong 2K product and a better Madden. This is not the case though, so we have to hope Ian puts his new position to good use and delivers on his rather lofty goals. We'll see.

[realtalktruth]

Quote: Originally Posted by asu666

vickhalloffame? The name says it all. I've got some ideas, let's put Vick on the cover of Madden 2010 to help EA appeal to the core want-a-be street thug crowd. We could throw gold fronts in there as download content. Maybe hire some of the guys from Blitz to help "improve" the gameplay.

wow, you sure showed me. didn't counter any of my points or bring in any intelligent points, as a matter of fact you didn't bring anything at all to the discussion to tell you the truth, but you did make fun of my username so its all cool.

the fact of the matter is the article is a waste of time(just a regular forum post) and wrong on so many levels. madden nation gets the best players to play against each other. are there any "anti-cheese" heads who are the best? no, so they are not on the show.

maybe if you people stopped complaining about a video game t.v. show and your opponents tactics you could step your game up so you could get on madden nation and show them how a true "sim" gamer plays football. no? your just going to complain about the game on a video game forum? well whatever works.

[casbruce]

Anyone know how they actually determine who the so-called "best madden players" are for this show? Do they look at online stats?

[RedskinsGM2B]

Despite ANY other comment in this thread, this article is surgically accurate! I agree that EA HAS indeed been pouring more & more of it's focus and resources into this exact type of community that is nothing less than a country club attempt at "thuggery" and "gangsta" "playas"...OVER A VIDEO GAME!!! But, it's OUR video! And it has been RAPED of it's innocence and purity. It is now poisoned with glitz & glamour just like some cheap shiny "bling" to attract the masses that will dive in and study, research & disect the game to reveal it's every weakness and hole. WHY? You know why. So, they can go out and jump online and call all "2" plays of their strategy and exploit every game glitch that they found or that they read about. Why oh why...WHY don't they commit such diligence toward scholastics?? Honestly, how many NFL games have you seen that the QB drops back 30 flippin' yards?! This is the style that is common and accepted amongst these youngsters. Suffice it to say, they'll never become football coaches...that win.
Here! Here! I applaud this article. Nice to see some old dogs still fighting the good fight.

[realtalktruth]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedskinsGM2B

Despite ANY other comment in this thread, this article is surgically accurate! I agree that EA HAS indeed been pouring more & more of it's focus and resources into this exact type of community that is nothing less than a country club attempt at "thuggery" and "gangsta" "playas"...OVER A VIDEO GAME!!! But, it's OUR video! And it has been RAPED of it's innocence and purity. It is now poisoned with glitz & glamour just like some cheap shiny "bling" to attract the masses that will dive in and study, research & disect the game to reveal it's every weakness and hole. WHY? You know why. So, they can go out and jump online and call all "2" plays of their strategy and exploit every game glitch that they found or that they read about. Why oh why...WHY don't they commit such diligence toward scholastics?? Honestly, how many NFL games have you seen that the QB drops back 30 flippin' yards?! This is the style that is common and accepted amongst these youngsters. Suffice it to say, they'll never become football coaches...that win. Here! Here! I applaud this article. Nice to see some old dogs still fighting the good fight.

yeah... ea loves cheesers, the #1 goal in its development cycle is adding glitches into madden and other things that others can abuse to win games. icons disappearing after running back 15 yards, not putting in the wildcat formation after "anti-sim" heads were crying about it, nerfing user catching, no fatigue for defenders to help against no huddle offense, genius we can abuse that all day. ea is all "hood" they represent, put on for the cheesers. its not like they want the most realistic football game ever, Ian said no such thing.

[RedskinsGM2B]

There, there now puppy. We certainly wouldn't suggest that EA has intentional goals to provide or include these...toxins, if you will. However, we DO indeed imply that it is the very lack or absence of goals in product quality or NFL representation that allows them to happen, exist, and be discovered. Surely, we needn't the saturated use of sarcasim. It's quite clear; the sides that exist. I think the majority is siding with, "if it's not REALISTIC, don't make it possible or don't allow it online in "RANKED" games. Engineer a dragnet. This argument has been rampant for years so, it's not like the bell is going off for the first time and poor EA hasn't had the opportunity to adjust. These "best" Madden gamers would NOT be as elite as the show may suggest if they were forced to leave the "cheese" at the door. They would quickly become lost in a crowd of mediocre players. Wouldn't that be shameful? To take away their advantages?

[Segagendude]

"Now what!!!"
"Straight up!!!!"
"Yeeahh boooyyyy!!!!!"
"This is ma house son!!!"
"Don't bring that round here!!! You'll get jacked up sucka!!!"
"You been owned!!"

I have the lingo down,now if I can just get my online chees----err, skills up to par, I can be on Madden Nation next year....

[bkrich83]

I don't even like playing Madden myself. . I can't imagine spending time watching a TV that shows a bunch of jokers playing Madden.