NBA 2K9 Team-Up Mode Not Fixed By Patch (Pasta Padre)

[Stumbleweed]

People drop during the game. That's not 2K's problem -- that's a ridiculous standard to hold it to. People drop for all kinds of reasons and not having a full 5 on 5 by the end of the game is very common in all team play games online.. have you played NHL 09, NHL 2K9, or NBA Live's OTP modes? Same deal there.

I'm not saying there aren't any issues, but I guess I just expect a certain amount of issues with 10 people connecting and playing such a resource-intensive game. The only problem I've had lately is games not being able to start because of that "network conditions are too poor" thing. It happened maybe 5 times and wasted probably 2 minutes of my precious life, but I was able to connect to several other games that ran silky smooth in between those non-starters. Maybe I have more patience for this stuff because the game mode itself is so freakin awesome, but it's a huge improvement from pre-patch because I haven't seen any super-laggy games like before and they generally just won't start now instead of dropping you after a 10 minute lag fest where you played all of 45 seconds gametime.

The lag and connection issues were nearly intolerable at first (I still played the mode though despite the frustration), but it's a world of improvement now.

[Chris Smoove]

ive played many 10 vs 10 matches on fifa, whether my team is up big or losing big i've still had games were all 20 players were there from start to finish with no lag at all, how about showing an entire 1st quarter playing lag free with all 10 players then, is that challenge better?

[Bornindamecca]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chris Smoove

i challenge you to get a 5 on 5 popping and post the video of the 4th quarter lag free with all 10 players still connected to the game

I don't have video equipment, otherwise there's a whole bunch of stuff I'd have put up.

[BroMontana82]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bornindamecca

I don't have video equipment, otherwise there's a whole bunch of stuff I'd have put up.

ok we all know it's true that you can get a lag free 10 on 10 game, but the majority of the time, you won't get one. also, there are certain scenarios where the issues are worse. the biggest problem is trying to create an unranked team up match, where you want to play with 4 of your friends against some other people. this is where you get the could not join lobbies message and all of that garbage from the video.

[tulsa1]

I actually find it easy to get an unranked Team-up game going post-patch. Before the patch, it was hard to do.

[BroMontana82]

Quote: Originally Posted by tulsa1

I actually find it easy to get an unranked Team-up game going post-patch. Before the patch, it was hard to do.

how about creating a match?

[TMagic]

From my brief experience with the online five on five, it is very VERY much improved.

It's amazing that everybody seems to be having confounding findings when it comes to this game. In every area of the game it seems that one person thinks it's fine and another thinks it's terrible.

If I remember correctly, I played three 5 on 5 games. Lag free. No choppiness. Like Stumble said, the only time the countdown came up was when someone dropped. That's it. Which is not under 2K's control.

The only other problem I found was that some games would only start with a few users. I'd back out and find another game. Simple. I didn't have any problems connecting to a host, not once. It searched for the game, connected to a host and I was in every time I tried it.

The 5 on 5 is far more enjoyable than it was before the patch. These were all ranked games as well. Pre-patch, the 5 on 5 played like crap, plain and simple. I played 3 games with 10 users a piece, with no problems. Again, This is MY EXPERIENCE.

For some of you to think that people are just making things up for whatever reason, is just silly. What benefit do any of us gain from lying about our experiences?

[Stumbleweed]

Heh, finally I got my TMagic powder blue name!

And I have no reason to try to hide flaws of 2K's game -- I was decidedly lukewarm on the game ever since the release high wore off, but I always thought that Team-Up was the best part of the game, even despite the issues. There was so much potential there if they could only sort out the lag/connection issues.. in my experience the past few days, those issues are greatly improved. The patch really improved the gameplay in my eyes and gave me back 2K Cam, so I'm back in love with the game, but I was about to jump ship to NCAA 09 a week ago.

I enjoy all three games and have no qualms about calling 2K out on things -- it was broken initially, but to say that's still the case doesn't seem fair to me, given the number of people reporting games running smoothly with minimal issues. I know that NBa Live's OTP runs nearly perfectly every time, but EA is also a gigantic company with tons of servers, a huge development/online team, and the game isn't nearly as popular as 2K9, resulting in a smaller server load. So there are legit reasons for them having connection problems even after a fix -- it's just very difficult to find 10 people with reliable connections, open NAT, etc., especially with such a technologically-demanding game.

If some idiot leaves his torrent client up while he's seeding or downloading some files, it'll ruin the whole game.. nothing 2K can do about that except not let the games start, which is essentially what they're doing with these error messages. It wastes much less of your time than it did before when you'd enter a lagfest game that took 20 minutes to get through 2 minutes of game time only to get booted.. give me the countdown screen and "network conditions are too poor" or "this game cannot be started" any day.