Madden NFL 10 Hands-On Preview (Joystiq)

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Quote: Originally Posted by Derrville

BTW what is a site that you guys would trust when giving an opinion about Madden 10?

For many, any site that reaffirms what they want to believe - be it positive or negative

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Quote: Originally Posted by PlyrzNumber1

When somebody with the game, claims that the game feels exactly like last years version (Joystiq), and another poster questions the credibility of that site, the natural course of conversation will be about the sites credibility. Then wait for a blog, or somebody to post something with more details about those particular areas of the game.

your rite..my mistake..i guess i'll just have to wait for the blog and i extend my most sincere apologies to you for showing interest in those 2 M10 features and not talking about who has the best site. thanks for showing me the light

[Derrville]

Quote: Originally Posted by NYyankz225

I think it's funny that some people are questioning why we don't trust places like IGN for noticing the improvements that were made. In case you don't remember, these are the same places that gave past Maddens 8's and 9's. Games that most of us would say have significant faults. Yet now, because they are saying something somewhat negative, we should all believe that their opinions are valid? I think it's just that some people like Derrville want to go against the grain. You can bet if IGN or this site had given Madden 10 a glowing preview we would be hearing about how past reviews were so inflated and they can't be trusted. Yet now we should listen because they have a few negative (and inaccurate according to the CD guys) things to say. Fact is EVERYBODY is "biased" on both sides of the fence. That's life. You just have to sort out the subjective comments that are made and make your own decision based on the objective information there is.

Is that a negative against me?

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This is a good sign when casual sites make negative comments on the game. Game play is the last thing on their list. They want features and more features even if these features don't work and no one will ever use them.

[Colladie]

Quote: Originally Posted by Netherscourge

I hope so too - but it seems like it's not going to get there yet. I mean, they're still dragging their feet about extra camera angles... The fact that they had to post a thread with a Poll asking our opinions means they dont' really feel like working on it for some strange reason... as if the poll was to try and justify NOT wanting to work on it. But they do the easy stuff like cleat colors for the freaks who make noise about it. How can you have "Emotion of the NFL" if you don't have a TV-style Broadcast camera as an option? I don't know... hopefully, E3 will reveal everything and some surprises. At this point, I'm 100 % focused on presentation and I don't even care about game modes or anymore gameplay gimmicks. Gameplay can get boring too if it's not spiced up with solid presentation.

It was a thread about multiple gameplay camera angles not about multiple presentation angles. Those (supposedly) are being looked into.

[PlyrzNumber1]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

This is a good sign when casual sites make negative comments on the game. Game play is the last thing on their list. They want features and more features even if these features don't work and no one will ever use them.

I think you get into sketchy territory clumping all gaming media sites together in the same "casual, no sports interest dumb gaming site" category. Joystiq comments on many games, in very diverse genres, and have a good reputation in the gaming-community as a credible, and fair resource for information and commentary.

Also, it's ironic that you comment on gaming sites wanting more and more features, when, specifically, this particular preview criticizes too many features, and not enough core-gameplay improvements.

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What I will say and have alluded to in other threads, is that EVERY year we hear about the new improvements. Then for the past few years that I can remember, preview sites like IGN have said how the game is unchanged.

People at OS go nuts and start saying how these are just sites for casual guys who don't know the sport, but guess what we've been disappointed time after time while the previews who said the game is unchanged have essentially been right.

Again we have no idea if that's true this year, but people seem to forget that we go through the exact same cycle every year and we've been disappointed each time.

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Quote: Originally Posted by PlyrzNumber1

I think you get into sketchy territory clumping all gaming media sites together in the same "casual, no sports interest dumb gaming site" category. Joystiq comments on many games, in very diverse genres, and have a good reputation in the community as a credible, and fair resource for information. Also, it's ironic that you comment on gaming sites wanting more and more features, when, specifically, this particular preview criticizes too many features, and not enough core-gameplay improvements.

I am talking about the last 10 years not this particular article. Madden having a true pass pocket and developing a new tackling system should be considered core game play improvements.