NCAA Football 10 - Current Plans

[fistofrage]

Quote: Originally Posted by Krioniq

It's a wonder that EA bothers patching this game at all given the harsh and scathing reception some people here are giving them. They're not obligated to do anything with the game post-release, but yet they're posting a patch because A) we've requested it (some with controlled, polite language; others using a far more disappointing tone), and B) they want to. I'm not excusing the game's development cycle for playing out the way it did, as certainly there have been some unnecessary missteps (particularly with the rosters; this can't happen again), but if EA says they're going to add / fix content to the game with a patch or an EA Locker downloadable file, and we take their words at face value, does it really matter this year that the patch content is not on the disc? We're getting it either way. I feel for the people who don't have internet access through their consoles, but for most people in this forum there's no reason to use such harsh language towards the developers when all they really want is to create an enjoyable and good college football game.

I agree that there is no need for harsh or vulgar language.

But look at the big picture. Lets say 1,000 people on OS buy this game. Thats probably a real conservative number. Not only are we giving EA $60,000 to beta test their game for them. But we are also providing them free market analysis. If the video game demographic is really the 18-35 year old male, and they are selling a sports game, there is really no better place for them to go than Operation Sports. You'd have to pay alot of money to assemble a focus group this size that reflects your customer base.

OS provides a valuable service to them. I really don't understand why people think we should be so grateful that they are here. They should be grateful that we take the game serious enough and provide them with free productive feedback. Its a two way street. They come here to find out what the market likes and doesn't like. They use us to ferret out problems with their game that their Q & A inexplicably cannot find. They need to hear the criticism, that is why they are here. As long as we are respectful, fire away. If I was them, thats what I would want. Noone in there right mind would turn down a free service like OS provides to EA.

So yes, be respectful, but also be critical where need be. Thats why they are here.

[kkman187]

Russ, any chance we get a look at the final rosters in a spreadsheet?

[sparker]

I hope the first patch would fix the bad shotgun snap=incomplete pass snafu. Will it?

[da ThRONe]

Quote: Originally Posted by fistofrage

I agree that there is no need for harsh or vulgar language. But look at the big picture. Lets say 1,000 people on OS buy this game. Thats probably a real conservative number. Not only are we giving EA $60,000 to beta test their game for them. But we are also providing them free market analysis. If the video game demographic is really the 18-35 year old male, and they are selling a sports game, there is really no better place for them to go than Operation Sports. You'd have to pay alot of money to assemble a focus group this size that reflects your customer base. OS provides a valuable service to them. I really don't understand why people think we should be so grateful that they are here. They should be grateful that we take the game serious enough and provide them with free productive feedback. Its a two way street. They come here to find out what the market likes and doesn't like. They use us to ferret out problems with their game that their Q & A inexplicably cannot find. They need to hear the criticism, that is why they are here. As long as we are respectful, fire away. If I was them, thats what I would want. Noone in there right mind would turn down a free service like OS provides to EA. So yes, be respectful, but also be critical where need be. Thats why they are here.

Thank you! We are the customers! It's there job to earn our money not ours to fix there game for them and excuse they're mistakes. I have the utmost respect for Russ and Adam ,but lets not get it twisted we are the boss. No its not there fault they have the exclusive deal but its does put the pressure on themselves. If they cant handle that pressure we they either need to find a dev team that can or get rid of the exclusive deal. But until we start acting like bosses and not NCAA drug addicts they have no reason to do better.

[atlplayboy23]

Yea its nice to have the bad snap just let it be ruled a fumble when it does happen

[N51_rob]

Quote: Originally Posted by Krioniq

It's a wonder that EA bothers patching this game at all given the harsh and scathing reception some people here are giving them. They're not obligated to do anything with the game post-release, but yet they're posting a patch because A) we've requested it (some with controlled, polite language; others using a far more disappointing tone), and B) they want to. I'm not excusing the game's development cycle for playing out the way it did, as certainly there have been some unnecessary missteps (particularly with the rosters; this can't happen again), but if EA says they're going to add / fix content to the game with a patch or an EA Locker downloadable file, and we take their words at face value, does it really matter this year that the patch content is not on the disc? We're getting it either way. I feel for the people who don't have internet access through their consoles, but for most people in this forum there's no reason to use such harsh language towards the developers when all they really want is to create an enjoyable and good college football game.

I respectfully disagree with this. OS is a small community of for the most part hardcore gamers. We represent a tiny fraction of EA's market share. These issues are being patched because A.) people are not stupid and would figure out how hosed up the rosters are and there would be huge backlash among the mainstream once they found out they paid $60 for a game that features only 25 or so correct rosters.

I completely agree that the tone of this thread and forum in general has gone down hill since word got out that the Devs were here interacting with us as a group, but to say that the reason EA is patching what IMO appears to be a horribly flawed game out of the box because we asked for it just seems naive (not saying that you are at all.)

But again, while I disagree with why you think these issues are being patch and some patched again (slider). I do agree that the way people talk to these guys is a little bit over the top. You can criticize with out insulting.

[GHUGHES]

I have a funny feeling we wont be hearing from anyone on the NCAA development team for about a month. Honestly is this game being shipped with broken roster and non working sliders again thats just comical. Atleast he came out and owned it the guys on the NBA live development team just came right out and said were not fixing any glitches 2010 is where its at. Let me keep it moving before i get a nice pm form one of the mods telling me how thankful I should be to the have the EA reps as guests.

[bigjake62505]

I can't see why this years game has so many flaws. The player models are the same for the most part, the commentary is the same as it has been for the last three years. I think there were like 8 or 9 new stadiums? The presentation is the same with the exception of bands. So I guess teambuilder and season show down(I am not sure that is what it is called, that is how much I care about it) took up the majority of the development time. I have no idea how long something like this takes but come on. I really thought that last years game was a step toward building a great game. I know that last years game had a ton of issues but I felt that one more development year would produce a good NCAA game for this year. Granted not many people have played this game yet but from every video I have seen shows the same issues that were in last years game. The roster issue is really fustrating. Did I read something that said that there was going to be someone who's job was strictly rosters? If this is true, they should be looking for another job right now!