Backbreaker Fact Sheet and Screenshots

[Pacman83]

I dont get why all you are so worried, like it is as if they ignored gameplay for the last 3-5 years to work on franchise....its already been said that its multiple seasons and it SO bare that they cant even really call it a franchise mode...So really where do you guys think the focus has been? Getting the gameplay right...and making sure we have a game thats more than playable. I myself have faith in the gameplay, and truly hope that the franchise itself is at least playable, thats all most franchise folks really want, i mean i doubt anyone is dumb enough think that the mode will be in depth, we just want it to be playable.


If it feels like football...you know fluid and realistic gameplay (why i cant play Madden more than a few), if i can customize anything, and if i can play more than a season with a draft (why i cant play APF more than a few)...then i am sold.

[Pacman83]

Yea, everyone doesnt play online....thats what most ya'll are forgetting. I have only a couple friends than play football online. My real life friends dont play video games--besides the fact that i move so much that i go months w/o talkin to a lotta them--but i HATE playing games online...if its not lag, it the cheesers.

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pacman83

Yea, everyone doesnt play online....thats what most ya'll are forgetting. I have only a couple friends than play football online. My real life friends dont play video games--besides the fact that i move so much that i go months w/o talkin to a lotta them--but i HATE playing games online...if its not lag, it the cheesers.

Well my situation is a bit different. My entire friends list is OS guys and only play off my friend list. So 99% of my online games are in a sim format. So I don't have the issue with cheeser.

Now with that said. I agree that franchise is a nice addition. The point I was making is that gameplay should supersede all the extra stuff such as franchise. Having a solid foundation that plays with way real football plays is #1. Then once they get the gameplay down then start adding in the key elements for replayability.

I think the core foundation is like Weeman and Sb touched on. Is the X & O's should be very solid for the game to succeed. You are going to be going against a football giant in EA. Not competing directly but indirectly you have the same "football" fans buying their title. So there is no way backbreaker will be able to compete in the added "fluff" that madden has built into its franchise over the course of years and years.

So to turn heads, so they get a chance at backbreaker 2, is to have a very solid gameplay experience. Something that is better than madden on the field. They won't get noticed because of having a good franchise mode. It will be their ON FIELD experience that gives them a chance at having good sales numbers to bring back the team for a second iteration.

[Pacman83]

Yea...same page there...but you'd figure with all the delays the fine tuning was with gameplay, because it seems as (even though there is one--thankfully) "franchise" got the short end. But its all good if i can stay on the field and have a few off the field additions--NOT mascot mode/superstar b.s.

All in all though-- i think gameplay keeps sports games strong and is a good base to compete. But franchise keeps more people interested , longer. So personally (probably for many others) i'll play for months on gameplay...but much longer with other solid modes such as franchise or SS (which has gotten weak)

I'll say for the last time though i pray BOTH are solid. I figure on the field though is where its at--but i just hope theres more for us offline players .....ie APF (cause i dont always have internet with all the moving...Germany, Texas, Miss, & Cali last 5 years.)

[Skyboxer]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigjake62505

Yea I get what you are saying but a new football game in 2010 should have some type of franchise I am not talking about pricing seats and hot dogs, just a multi year type of mode that you can build your team from. Kind of like of what the dev's of BB has hinted too. Again, I am not trying to argue with anyone and I like to read your posts on the Show forums. I just like to have good discussions with people. Its hard to express yourself through text LOL. I am 28 how old are you? IMO after 13 years of sports games a franchise type mode is needed and I think that having one gives BB football a better chance of having success in the long run. Without the support of a lot of customers it will be one and done and I do not want that to happen.

The issue isn't whether they should have one or not though. The issue is people not understanding that some gamers like myself could still enjoy the game without a franchise mode. As long as the gameplay is very good I really don't need a franchise to enjoy it. Do I prefer one? Yes sir, absolutely.
Guess what I'm saying is if BB has franchise and the gameplay sucks I would rather have had them work on getting the X's and O's right first then get a nice franchise in.
Hopefully we'll have both but I'm not setting the bar that high yet as I don't want to get myself all excited then dissappointed.

[TheKasmar]

This franchise thing sounds serious and important. Alot of feelings hurt over a game no one has played yet. Lets see how the game is overall before franchise tears are shed.

The GTA peds have sort of a limpness to there body that I hope isn't present in Barebacker. Euphoria may not be as sound as we imagine it to be.

Abbott needs to work on his quarterback form

[CreatineKasey]

I'm glad this game isn't franchise oriented. Yeah it'll have offseason functions and multiple years, but there's a clear reason why they called it "multi-season". I hope they worry more about a working league function with customization up the wazoo for online along with annual tournaments and such.

There's a ton of games for you franchisers out there. Why not play the new front page football or whatever it is? There's tons of text sims and other things out there. You guys often don't value gameplay as much, and in that case why not go play a text sim and call it a day?

Fortunately this debate means nothing for franchisers. You guys have your games out there already, and not hopefully Backbreaker gives competitive gamers another great outlet for some head to head football!

Have to represent the competitive bunch. Don't want people to think OS is run by a bunch of franchisers

[Pacman83]

"There's a ton of games for you franchisers out there. Why not play the new front page football or whatever it is? There's tons of text sims and other things out there. You guys often don't value gameplay as much, and in that case why not go play a text sim and call it a day?"



Well i could say "For all you that dont value franchise as much..Gameplayers, i guess...why dont you go play APF" see how that comes off? I mean i must have missed the poster than wanted them to F' the gameplay and work on franchise. I've see guys say they wont buy if there's no franchise, which i dont agree with (SUPPORT THIS GAME--ITS FOR THE GREATER GOOD!!!! ), but i understand it...it'll be just like APF...just on the field...then whats the reason to buy it for those who dont have $60 extra and can play great playing APF for less than $10? To change more uni colors?



BTW i get too competitive, thats why i dont play online, i hate losing, especially sports games. Just cause i play offline 90% doesnt mean i'm not competitive...or am i reading this wrong?