Backbreaker Video: Developer Diary #2 - Euphoria (Gamespot)

[LionsFanNJ]

Quote: Originally Posted by mgoblue678

I don't think anybody is jumping the gun, I think some people are missing the point. Even if the overall game doesn't turn out to be great that doesn't change the fact that the Euphoria engine or something similar is something that is revolutionary in sports gaming and is probably the future of sports gaming, that is the main reason people are so excited about this game. Unless somebody honestly believes canned animations are going to allow sports games and football games specifically to get to the next level. I am still unsure about certain aspects of the game as well, such as how good will the playbooks or how intelligent will the CPU AI be, but that doesn't mean I am not excited about this game. Also I think would like to point out there were three things in this video that we have never seen in a football game before. The rb reaching out with one arm while being tackled to get the td, the true gang tackling and there was actually a part of the video that was hard to catch where a d-linemen was on his knees and the o-linemen was still realistically blocking him.

What i'm trying to say is since Maddens quality hasn't been that great, it somewhat artificially increases the hype for this more than if Madden was an A+ title like The Show or a good quality games like the ones modeled after the NBA.

Then again, i wonder how much true hype around this game really is in general. So its all relative i suppose.

[turftickler]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pro Bowler

What scares me about this game being anywhere close to good is that EA will just buy the tech and sit on it. Just like big oil companies who buy out alternate fuel and energy ideas. I think the whole idea behind this game is to show what Euphoria can do so they can sell it. I hope i'm wrong, but this might be the last we see of Euphoria for atleast a couple years because it would require EA or 2K to re-write their whole game practically if this tech proves to have a future in sports gaming. Anyhow, enough with the conspiracy stuff. The game does look to be coming along nicely. Football is a game of contact first and foremost and if the AI is just half decent it would still be light years ahead of Madden imo. If by chance it has a play editor it will be a day one purchase for me regardless.

Rest easy bro. EA can't just take Euphoria Motion and plop it down into their Madden NFL games. NaturalMotion would have to help them implement it into Madden football games. It is not and game engine. EA won't be able to buy up NaturalMotion either. They (NM) have already stated that they are not for sale.

Pre-order at Wal-Mart for $44.99 and you will get yourself a $5 discount instead of paying $49.99 for it.

[Pro Bowler]

Quote: Originally Posted by turftickler

Rest easy bro. EA can't just take Euphoria Motion and plop it down into their Madden NFL games. NaturalMotion would have to help them implement it into Madden football games. It is not and game engine. EA won't be able to buy up NaturalMotion either. They (NM) have already stated that they are not for sale. Pre-order at Wal-Mart for $44.99 and you will get yourself a $5 discount instead of paying $49.99 for it.

I know EA can't just plop it into their game. That's why i'm saying there is a good chance that EA would buy it and sit on it for who knows how long till they could build a game that works with Euphoria.

I was under the impression that since this game started out as a tech demo that they were looking to sell the technology. I'm pretty sure i read that somewhere that this tech at one time was up for sale. I can't remember who wrote that or how credible that info was though.

[mgoblue678]

Quote: Originally Posted by LionsFanNJ

What i'm trying to say is since Maddens quality hasn't been that great, it somewhat artificially increases the hype for this more than if Madden was an A+ title like The Show or a good quality games like the ones modeled after the NBA. Then again, i wonder how much true hype around this game really is in general. So its all relative i suppose.

I do agree that some of people are more excited about this game because of Madden's quality lacking but at least for me even if Madden or NCAA were great titles I still would be excited for this game. I just think canned animations in sports games at least in those involving a lot of contact represent a ceiling that is limiting what can be done. The Euphoria engine may be what breaks through that ceiling.

[turftickler]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pro Bowler

I know EA can't just plop it into their game. That's why i'm saying there is a good chance that EA would buy it and sit on it for who knows how long till they could build a game that works with Euphoria. I was under the impression that since this game started out as a tech demo that they were looking to sell the technology. I'm pretty sure i read that somewhere that this tech at one time was up for sale. I can't remember who wrote that or how credible that info was though.

I had the same concerns, but I was told by one of the Dev Team members personally, that the technology can't be sold, but only implemented. EA can't buy up anything there bro. You will be able to play lots of games with this tech in it for years to come.

Have you watched the videos thread that I created a few days ago? If not, go check it out and druel as I did. LOL.

[turftickler]

Quote: Originally Posted by mgoblue678

I do agree that some of people are more excited about this game because of Madden's quality lacking but at least for me even if Madden or NCAA were great titles I still would be excited for this game. I just think canned animations in sports games at least in those involving a lot of contact represent a ceiling that is limiting what can be done. The Euphoria engine may be what breaks through that ceiling.

For sure. Euphoria Motion is the foundation of next-gen sports gaming. Also, Euphoria is not the only physics based tech out there, but nothing has come close to what it has to offer, yet. However, I do believe that we have only seen what the future holds, more great physics based games.

[Hova57]

Quote: Originally Posted by turftickler

I had the same concerns, but I was told by one of the Dev Team members personally, that the technology can't be sold, but only implemented. EA can't buy up anything there bro. You will be able to play lots of games with this tech in it for years to come. Have you watched the videos thread that I created a few days ago? If not, go check it out and druel as I did. LOL.

yea they just set up a new studio , so any of ea games wanting this tech, is going to travel to uk in order to get it into the game. i have a feeling the whole package is going to knock the socks off people just from visuals,sound and how it plays.
i think once we know more about ai ,controls and playbooks alot of people will be happy. this is what everyone has been crying out for since 2k stop making football games. we just have to be patient and chill. my big question is what does the EA development team think of their current product and what they gonna do? unlike EA they have had time to get things right and had the opportunity to push it back. Madden may be better off to push back til end of August.

[Pro Bowler]

^^^ that's cool so they are going to just license it. Sill, anything could happen especially if this puts a considerable dent in the Madden franchise. They got so much invested in that game anything is possible.

Thanks for the info. I'm off to your video thread.