What Needs to Stay in NBA Live 11

[TreyIM2]

23 - Oh, another thing I think is big for EA is that their sports engines are old and instead of completely building a new engine and implementing it (which they could be doing behind the scenes and could take years to build, to begin with. who knows), they work with what's there. The coding is so deep into the engine that fixing some things would take considerable time as well as break the engine. That's actually been said by someone from EA, last year, but it's something I thought, anyway, since, hell, some things have been there since I can remember in Live as well as Madden.

As for rebounding, I think they did a MUCH better job than recent years because people can actually GET REBOUNDS NOW and sometimes I EVEN GET REBOUNDS I DON'T THINK I HAVE A CHANCE AT GETTING!! Lol. I have little issue with the rebounding.
Shot blocking, OH YEAH-YER, that's a HUGE issue. I can't stand how when I control a player trying to block a shot, he just TOTALLY inept, facing the wrong direction, swiping at nothing and/or using the wrong hand to try to block a shot.
Some of the movement can be quirky but I MUCH prefer more control with the right stick than with that non-sense Iso-motion. 2K has some odd movement issues, as well, but I have not played a retail version of 2K10 with all the patches but I've heard it's not that great in some posts, even rockchisler reiterated that. I HAVE owned every 2K prior to that except 2K7 so I know about their issues but this is not what this blog is about. Lol.

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Quote: Originally Posted by TreyIM2

23 - If u didn't get what I was saying, I think it's a matter of EA brass being too controlling and not just giving the devs and such more free reign. I think "Corporate EA" THINKS that sticking to whatever business model THEY feel is best instead of thinking more about what the people who actually buy their game want has been their biggest prob until recent years. I think having Peter Moore has been ESPECIALLY helpful for them when it comes to their football and basketball titles although Fifa and NHL were already to the point to where they reclaimed the crown from Konami and 2K, in those two sports. Based on that, this is why I believe that Live 11 won't just go in some completely different direction, which was never exactly spelled out by MW, to begin with. Maybe he meant that they were going in a different direction than what HE originally had planned and laid out to EA, not necessarily kill what is already there and do the unthinkable...like NBA Live Jam 11 or sumthin. Lol.

Well what are they keeping.. that is the question?

...when you figure that out, therein lies the problem and its not strictly a corporate mandate

Looking at Live 09, what good do you get out or removing charging, adding chest bumps and vanquishing all of the other animations between player to player among many other things?

This is the reason why the game seems directionless.

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Quote: Originally Posted by TreyIM2

23 - Oh, another thing I think is big for EA is that their sports engines are old and instead of completely building a new engine and implementing it (which they could be doing behind the scenes and could take years to build, to begin with. who knows), they work with what's there. The coding is so deep into the engine that fixing some things would take considerable time as well as break the engine. That's actually been said by someone from EA, last year, but it's something I thought, anyway, since, hell, some things have been there since I can remember in Live as well as Madden. As for rebounding, I think they did a MUCH better job than recent years because people can actually GET REBOUNDS NOW and sometimes I EVEN GET REBOUNDS I DON'T THINK I HAVE A CHANCE AT GETTING!! Lol. I have little issue with the rebounding. Shot blocking, OH YEAH-YER, that's a HUGE issue. I can't stand how when I control a player trying to block a shot, he just TOTALLY inept, facing the wrong direction, swiping at nothing and/or using the wrong hand to try to block a shot. Some of the movement can be quirky but I MUCH prefer more control with the right stick than with that non-sense Iso-motion. 2K has some odd movement issues, as well, but I have not played a retail version of 2K10 with all the patches but I've heard it's not that great in some posts, even rockchisler reiterated that. I HAVE owned every 2K prior to that except 2K7 so I know about their issues but this is not what this blog is about. Lol.

Moving over to nex gen, they told us that they built a new framework for it. I guess they lied because there are some very basic things that are really wrong from what I see.

Rebounding is better than it was but needs to be much better... Shoot the ratings need to be fixed because there is no way guys who dont rebound should be snatching boards over you in the default game.

As far as what rock said, that was just a cop out. Im not even going into 2k, and if he wants to do that then their list of things to keep is far deeper than any Live made this gen.

[bigeastbumrush]

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

Then explain the lack of fixing fundamentals in the game for years? Rebounding, shot blocking, movement? Dismiss that as corporate restriction and I wont ever take another post of yours serious.

The devs either lacked fundamental basketball knowledge, time to implement it properly or desire to implement it properly.

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Quote: Originally Posted by bigeastbumrush

The devs either lacked fundamental basketball knowledge, time to implement it properly or desire to implement it properly.

Can't be time when its been a multiple year thing. You get what im saying

[Tomba]

Global editing needs to stay.

[TreyIM2]

23 - I feel u, though. It's been a long time coming for things to be added, even some of the most fundamental of things, and it makes no sense how some things get removed. We can talk about Madden, in that "subtraction" regard, like crazy, but I think that, now, EA "gets it" and I strongly believe that the OS community had some serious effect on EA's thinking. Like that Empire of the Sun song goes, "WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT RULE THE WORLD!!..." Heh.

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Well I dont believe they do.. we will see