Madden NFL 11 Title Update #5 Details

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan

what about cpu d-linemen do they still do that ridiculous warp/swim move to get past blocks in .5 seconds?

Depending on the playcall, yes...

[moylan1234]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

Depending on the playcall, yes...

thanks for the response i'm gonna go cry now

[Flightwhite24]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

I played it more today than I have in the last 3 months combined (thanks mainly to NHL 11). I'm not ruling out the placebo affect, but the CPU's defense seemed much better to me.

Just curious kehlis how did you get the patch already?

[TheCreep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJIM3iddDmw&feature=fvsr. Look at 1:57 and tell me that isn't exactly what you guys complain about in Madden. The instant swim rip is not a fantasy gentleman, sorry. I'm also sure that you can find many more examples of the instant swim rip if you really want to.

[moylan1234]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheCreep

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJIM3iddDmw&feature=fvsr. Look at 1:57 and tell me that isn't exactly what you guys complain about in Madden. The instant swim rip is not a fantasy gentleman, sorry. I'm also sure that you can find many more examples of the instant swim rip if you really want to.

that's a highlight reel and by definition it's a collection of his best plays. someone probably had to go through hours footage to find those plays.

My problem with the swim rip is not that it happens it's the frequency with which it does and how it happens just as much regardless of my lineman's rating. 2-3 times a game and you wouldn't hear a peep from me, but unfortunately I see it that often per drive. The other part is the number of times the cpu pulls it off versus how often I'm able to do it.

[Senator Palmer]

For those that do have the patch, I keep reading about the improved CPU defense, but how is the USER defense -- namely the 4 man pass rush, and defenders filling holes?

The one thing I liked about NCAA was as the Middle Linebacker on an ISO, if I took on the fullback and forced the runner back inside, the weakside linebacker or safety would fill. In Madden, a lot of my AI teamates would just stand there, that is if they weren't getting off the ground.

Speaking of the defenders on the ground? Do you see the phenomina where and OL engages your D-line then steamrolls all 4 of them to the ground?

And how is the solo tackling?

[TheCreep]

Quote: Originally Posted by moylan

that's a highlight reel and by definition it's a collection of his best plays. someone probably had to go through hours footage to find those plays. My problem with the swim rip is not that it happens it's the frequency with which it does and how it happens just as much regardless of my lineman's rating. 2-3 times a game and you wouldn't hear a peep from me, but unfortunately I see it that often per drive. The other part is the number of times the cpu pulls it off versus how often I'm able to do it.

I do agree with you there. It does happen more often than it probably should.

[Senator Palmer]

With the rip/swim move warp, I don't think you should see it even once a game. Even when a DT beats an offensive linement, he still has has to work through him to shed the block. Ripping, and completely tossing aside an offensive linemen in on sudden move should only be reserved for the truly elite players. I can only recall a few players I have seen with my own eyes get off like that and destroy a lineman with that kind of suddeness: Kris Jenkins, Reggie White, and Warren Sapp... and I wanna say I've seen Hayneseworth do it a few times.

I'm sure others can throw out a few other players, but it's just not something that happens multiple times a game, because it is truly a special thing to have that kind of quickness and power to be able to pull that play off.

If it is something that's going to be part of the game, then I can live with it, but give me something to counter it. In NCAA, I can change up my snap count to draw an offsides. In Madden, I'm at the mercy of the AI.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJ9lYyj4uQ