OS Roundtable: What Do You Think of The Show's Move to Analog Controls?

[steelcurtain311]

I had no issues at all with their simple-classic controls. I don't see the need to switch to analog, I think their hitting system is awesome, although could be simplified. I think it would be much better implemented in pitching, than in hitting. It's hard to time something with the stick, as opposed to pushing a button.

But as long as they have both options, I don't really care.

[Joey]

When I say preloading, I'm talking about whatever triggers the beginning of your swing. For example, if someone's trigger is lifting their leg up, they don't do that after the pitcher releases the ball, rather they do it right at the moment of release - if not a split second before. If they decide to take the pitch, the leg just comes back down and they don't swing. So again, I see no reason to think that pitch speed would play a different part in an analog swing, as it's all one fluid motion. I can't imagine that both the start of your swing and the swing itself would take place after the pitcher has released the ball. But again, I will say, who can say for sure? It's all speculation at this point.

Quote: Originally Posted by rudyjuly2

The ESPN article said you can't preload your analog swing so timing is more important making pitch speed an even bigger factor. I really hope the sliders go back to a 20 point system and have more bite.

[daflyboys]

Moving to a swing stick, although of course isn't pure realism, certainly is more realistic in a baseball game vs. hitting a button, depending on how it's done. I applaud 2K for trying to emulate some type of pitching motion (though I think it could mirror more of a true pull back/follow through motion versus what they have) and the little while I played NCAA 06 and tried the swing stick, I have to say took some time to make an adjustment, but I liked it. In hockey games, I can't imagine not playing one without a skill stick of sorts.

But with this being the first year I've had a chance to try The Show, I've been less than impressed in the results with simply hitting "X". There have been times where I know I've only tapped the button, which happened to translate to a full swing (maybe even when I've meant to check swing) and have been unduly rewarded with a hit and maybe even a home run. So, looking forward to how they handle this. As far as preloading, I think it was NCAA 06 that worked in some sort of quality/effectiveness of swing coupled to the timing of when you "pre-loaded", which also makes sense. As a batter, a well timed slight pull back should reward you more than simpy hitting forward, which would just be a low contact move, it would seem.

[fhqwhgads]

Is anyone else slightly concerned with this whole analog hitting and pitching idea? I just think the whole idea of analog controls is completely overrated. MVP NCAA Baseball did this and it was not all that great. The main problem I have with how The Show is incorporating this feature is the fact that it is completely based on timing.

While timing is definitely an important part of hitting a baseball, if not the most important part of all, you must also have hand-eye coordination and be able to literally put the bat on the ball. Analog controls completely ignore this important aspect of batting.

Therefore, I am saying, "no thanks," to this option right from the start. I'll never even try it, not once. Now on the positive side I love that The Show will have true zone hitting for the first time. This style of hitting is, by far, the most realistic.

One of the most frustrating things last year was when you timed a ball perfectly and made solid contact only to see a little dribbler go off the end of your bat. Hopefully this is taken care of with zone hitting.

Is anyone else going to jump right in to zone hitting or are you guys going to give analog hitting a shot?

[Blzer]

I always passed on MVP because it was a timing-based hitting system. Yes, there was left stick directional influence with the swing but it didn't change the fact that proper timing and pitch location guaranteed contact. This is the case with 2K10 and thusly I didn't play it much this past year. This has slightly been the case with The Show, and thusly I have noted some slight flaws in the hitting system (which is improving year after year).

I will probably say "no thanks" to right-stick hitting as well. It looks like it will be done the way I would have most anticipated it to be a successful system, but I like having to use my left stick skills to make contact with the ball as well as being able to time it. With their new implementation of a cursor system for The Show '11, I have a feeling I'm going to use that and use the right analog stick for fielding. Pitching is up in the air for now, though. I'll give the right-stick controls a try, but time will tell whether it will be favored over the button-meter style we're all accustomed to with this series.

[EnigmaNemesis]

You should at least give it a try, before you are ready to throw in the towel.

[fhqwhgads]

Quote: Originally Posted by Blzer

I always passed on MVP because it was a timing-based hitting system. Yes, there was left stick directional influence with the swing but it didn't change the fact that proper timing and pitch location guaranteed contact. This is the case with 2K10 and thusly I didn't play it much this past year. This has slightly been the case with The Show, and thusly I have noted some slight flaws in the hitting system (which is improving year after year). I will probably say "no thanks" to right-stick hitting as well. It looks like it will be done the way I would have most anticipated it to be a successful system, but I like having to use my left stick skills to make contact with the ball as well as being able to time it. With their new implementation of a cursor system for The Show '11, I have a feeling I'm going to use that and use the right analog stick for fielding. Pitching is up in the air for now, though. I'll give the right-stick controls a try, but time will tell whether it will be favored over the button-meter style we're all accustomed to with this series.

I'm with you there. I will try the analog pitching too. I have always wanted a system where you have to time the ball being released from the pitcher's hand.

[CoreyMac]

Analog for me....Especially for pitching. It adds a new challenge to the game. Analog batting I'll give a shot, but If I have issues check swinging I'll go back to face buttons for hitting because check swings have become a very big part of my game....

Give analog a shot before you dismiss it completely. It's the one thing I enjoy from MLB 2K baseball personally. There's no reason to be "concerned" with analog hitting and pitching when its simply an option. Its not mandatory.