Madden NFL 12 Features Major Change in Defensive Secondary AI

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by K_GUN

as long as DB AI doesn't resort to cheating

Well here is a shot of man coverage from the NCAA gameplay vid. The wr is trailing the db and the db is mirroring the wrs moves. It doesn't look good to me at all.

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[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

Well here is a shot of man coverage from the NCAA gameplay vid. The wr is trailing the db and the db is mirroring the wrs moves. It doesn't look good to me at all. GIFSoup

Yeah, I saw that too. Hopefully, it will be tuned before shipment.

Also, the videos shown were still a WIP.

[Senator Palmer]

That vid doesn't horrify me as much as if I were looking at the DB mirror a deep dig route, which was the huge issue last year before NCAA 11 was tuned.

On that one, the DB is on top of the WR because, I'm hoping, he was in a deep third zone coverage like in cover 3, and the WR just can't motor pass him. Then he stops and tries to make a play on the ball. I don't think that vid in itself represents a huge issue, but a lack of available animations to represent the DB chopping down his steps and gathering himself to reach up to make the swat.

[jmood88]

I'm not getting excited about anything until I actually see it work.

[BlueNGold]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

Your point about posters saying NCAA is great/Madden sucks is good too. I found this site as Madden 10 info was dropping and seems at that time NCAA 10 was seen as Madden 09.5. A year later posters claim its the greatest game the football world has ever seen and has always been superior to Madden which is absolute garbage. I just don't see how anyone can love one and hate the other either. They play very similar to me.

This doesn't even make any sense.

People aren't supposed to enjoy NCAA if they don't like Madden? They're two different games. That's like saying if you don't like NHL, you shouldn't like FIFA because they're both developed by EA Canada.

[ch46647]

Quote: Originally Posted by jmood88

I'm not getting excited about anything until I actually see it work.

This!

EA are the kings of telling us how great things are without SHOWING us how great they are. I loved Madden on PS2 and prior. However, this generation has been nothing but a complete letdown for me and many of my friends who played Madden religiously.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Quote: Originally Posted by Legend Killer

I love the sound of this guy thinking and all. I hope the D is working alot this year and all. But please for the love of god take out the AI mirror imaging WR routes crap. Other then that it sounds good. Can't wait until Thursday for all the info and gameplay.

Agree. I say if the defender is doing a great job covering the receiver, and jumping his route. Please lets make sense out of it by having the defender look at his receiver the whole time , and then look back for the ball when the receiver does.

[BlueNGold]

Quote: Originally Posted by ch46647

This! EA are the kings of telling us how great things are without SHOWING us how great they are. I loved Madden on PS2 and prior. However, this generation has been nothing but a complete letdown for me and many of my friends who played Madden religiously.

Agreed with both of you guys.

I'm optimistic this year, but I'm not making a decision on whether or not I'm buying the game until I see videos and play the demo and see that certain past annoyances have been fixed.

I stupidly bought Madden 11 last year because I was in an online franchise carrying over from Madden 10, even though you could tell from the videos that it wasn't a big leap forward like Madden 10 was, so I'm not making that mistake again.