New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by kbmnm247

It actually will prevent me from playing because let's say I'm on my XBOX at 1:00 and all games are finished I can't go and play my next weeks game because my commish needs to pay $3 to advance the dynasty remotely. Whereas if he paid that fee I wouldn't be prevented from playing. And EA is not doing the exact same thing as the rest of the free world because they have a monopoly on the NCAA and NFL console football sports gaming business. AT&T can not buy out every cell tower in the world. McDonald's can't buy out the entire meat inventory. Comcast can't buy out the entire cable industry. They bought out the competition for a huge amount of money and now in order to recoup that money they need to charge for features that should be in the $60 game. Period.

First it's not a monopoly. Second it's not preventing you from playing the game. It's preventing you from advancing the game in a manner which you've never been able to before. Paying extra for an advanced feature is nothing new.

That's quite a big reach saying its preventing you from playing. If that were the case then you'd never have been able to play the game previously.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by coogrfan

Why did I allow myself to get drawn back into this? You've stated your case ad-nauseum. Time to move on.

Yeah I am ejecting. Just another agenda pusher who will quite frankly say anything to push their agenda.

[Critical Kills]

Quote: Originally Posted by kbmnm247

EA got the exclusivity in 2004, so they obviously pressed for it in 2004. Also, they tried to get the NBA exclusivity too (because 2K again was crushing them and starting to take away market share) http://sports.ign.com/articles/574/574539p1.html Thank god the NBA denied it. I wish the NFL did the same. I guess this isn't a legit source either though.

You just made the other sides point for them, the "blame" for the football deals lies with the NFL and NCAA, not at EAs door. Like the NBA and MLB they could have denied the exclusive route but they didn't. Trying to make it out as if EA did it to kill competition instead of what it really was, the NFL/NCAA wanted the deal to have full control over their products, is just plain ridiculous and disingenuous.

[kbmnm247]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

You just made the other sides point for them, the "blame" for the football deals lies with the NFL and NCAA, not at EAs door. Like the NBA and MLB they could have denied the exclusive route but they didn't. Trying to make it out as if EA did it to kill competition instead of what it really was, the NFL/NCAA wanted the deal to have full control over their products, is just plain ridiculous and disingenuous.

How am I making their point for them? Their point was that EA didn't lobby for the deals when it is clear they did. Heck, they even tried to get NBA and MLB as well.

And yes, NBA or MLB could have denied but they didn't because there were more of those games being made and license money being paid to those respective leagues. NFL had Madden offering massive amounts of money because guess what, Madden is/was EA's biggest US franchise and they'd been making bank off of it since like 1990.

EA obviously did it to try to quell competition, I don't see how it's possible to argue otherwise. What have they done with those licenses exactly? Have you ever seen 2k5?

Point is, EA went to the NFL, not the other way around. When the NFL heard how much EA was willing to pay they went to 2k and got their offer. 2K obviously didn't have the funds that EA Sports did and so NFL went with the huge payday from EA. What we have gotten extra in our games from EA regarding this exclusive license has been nothing, as far as I can tell. Nothing new in the game that wasn't in there before. I honestly don't see how you could read my post and what was included in it and then claim that I am making their point for them and that the NFL just wanted more control over their product.

[kbmnm247]

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

First it's not a monopoly. Second it's not preventing you from playing the game. It's preventing you from advancing the game in a manner which you've never been able to before. Paying extra for an advanced feature is nothing new. That's quite a big reach saying its preventing you from playing. If that were the case then you'd never have been able to play the game previously.

What other NCAA or NFL sports game can I get for my Xbox 360?

I just stated how it could prevent me from playing the game. Is it a reach? Sure it might be, but it's still not allowing me to play the game when if everyone had that feature I would be able to play. And yes, paying for a new/advanced feature is something new for me. I didn't have to pay for EA Fifa UT, I never had to pay to see my Halo stats or COD stats. I can queue up demos from my Xbox Live account online. I'm not sure when I have ever paid for a new/advanced feature to be honest. Yes I've paid for maps and for new chapters in games but never for a feature.

[poopoop]

Trying to paint the people who have an issue with this as having some "agenda" is a hilariously cheap argument.

Like it's a huge shock that arguably the two biggest online dynasty specific new features aren't free this year and people are mad about that.

[bkrich83]

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

Trying to paint the people who have an issue with this as having some "agenda" is a hilariously cheap argument. Like it's a huge shock that arguably the two biggest online dynasty specific new features aren't free this year and people are mad about that.

I think the outright misinformation being passed on as fact as well as the blatant reaches to attempt to make a point make it quite clear.

[poopoop]

What's your agenda then. Why are you in every thread on this topic trying to minimize the issue and discredit anyone who speaks out against it?

Example You from a similar thread 2 years ago:

Quote: Originally Posted by bkrich83

Yes the sky is falling once again. Same people every time declaring the end of the world. Personally, there isn't a feature mentioned there that I care about, free or for DLC.

You point out it's the same people complaining every time. Why should the people on the other side get a pass though? You can dig through older threads and see the exact same people making the exact same arguments.