Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Green Bay Packers and Minnesota Vikings

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by JJ_Bills9

DCEB, do you have rosters available for download throughout the season? Thinking I'm going to have to use yours.

Not yet. Trying to tie up some legal stuff first for distribution. However, I am thinking about approving some fellow posters who inquired about making rosters for the site and then distributing them. I will keep you posted.

[poopoop]

Go ahead. Tell me Finely can't jump.

[poopoop]

Quote: Originally Posted by JJ_Bills9

Speed has nothing to do with how much separation you can get on a route. That's route running and how well the DB covers the route. JerMichael Finley isn't fast. This is a fact. Quarless is faster than him. This also a fact. No point debating this because it's true. Finley should be a mid 70 guy in speed. But frankly players in this game aren't accurately rated in speed across the board. Vernon Davis should be at least 15 points higher than Jermichael based on 40 and based on in-game film. Speed is speed. Please rate it correctly Donny.

Basically.

I think the root of the problem is the game placing too much priority on speed. Slower players who are better at other things aren't as valuable as the faster guys. They need to do a better job representing the importance of things like route running in addition to making the ratings as objective as possible.

[JJ_Bills9]

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

Go ahead. Tell me Finely can't jump.

I'm not sure if you're being a smart-***, but he's about 5 inches off the ground. Well thrown ball is what made that play, and basically every jump ball I've seen on Finley's highlights.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

Go ahead. Tell me Finely can't jump.

This one is harder to judge because we don't know where in the endzone they are in relation to that pylon. My guess is its about the same as the last one.

[poopoop]

Yeah I was being sarcastic, wanted to take a stab at the "google image search jermichael finely jumping and post first result" method. Next I want to try "well he jumped that high at the combine, but he jumps higher in the real game I've seen it."

I mean we know how high he can jump should not have been an argument to begin with.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by poopoop

Yeah I was being sarcastic, wanted to take a stab at the "google image search jermichael finely jumping and post first result" method. Next I want to try "well he jumped that high at the combine, but he jumps higher in the real game I've seen it." I mean we know how high he can jump should not have been an argument to begin with.

None of this stuff should be an argument. The problem is that EA relies on crappy information to do their ratings and they get things out of whack IMO. Just trying to shed some light on that.

[JJ_Bills9]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

None of this stuff should be an argument. The problem is that EA relies on crappy information to do their ratings and they get things out of whack IMO. Just trying to shed some light on that.

Agreed. This is really the core of the argument. There are certain ratings in this game that the developers have concrete numbers to go off of, and they choose to just come up with stuff off the top of their head. Like speed, and strength, jumping, stuff like that... not hard to figure out since there are numbers you can look at to get very accurate ratings.

Now awareness, throwing accuracy, blocking skills? Those are a bit of a guessing game, but they should be able to be in the ball park to something accurate.