FIFA 12 Available Now, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[electrickeeper]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tomba

The commentary ebbs and flows with this game. Im hearing so many new things as well.

You guys should play with Fulham and make sure John Arne Riise gets the ball, today (Sept. 24) only though.

Spoiler

The commentator says that hopefully he gets a positive result on his birthday. Awesome addition to the commentary.

[RoyceDa59]

My impressions, I played 5 complete matches with tweaked sliders 9min matches on Pro and World Class with 1 match on 10mins. Quick rundown on scores.

Arsenal (me) 0-3 Chelsea
Feyenoord (me) 1-2 AZ
Valencia CF (me) 1-1 Malaga CF
Bayern Muchen (me) 1-5 Manchester City
Chelsea (me) 1-0 Manchester City

First thing first I can say is I like the game for what it is but there is something missing to me IMO. I'll just run off the things I noticed: the Player impact to me is a Hit or Miss sometimes in the games I played in. You will see some amazing collisions in this game and then see one that can give you a slight disadvantage or advantage.

One example: I was dribbling down the wing with Mata and Micah Richards starts to jostle with him. Micah attempts to swipe at the ball and miss while Mata is running only to go completely limp falling onto Mata and Mata just pushes him off like he was paper and keeps on running. I feel the Player Impact Engine ignores strength at times and you see some questionable animations and supposedly "weak" players taking out stronger players and making them fling. Overall, Player Impact Engine still needs tweaking it is not quite there yet but it has potential.

Next, I tweaked pass error for CPU to about 30 (default is 50) even when doing this I still feel like pass is to perfect the CPU only because.......you can't tweak through passes, crosses and lobs which I feel are deadly accurate at times. In my Feyenoord-AZ match I watched the CPU split the D with some Xavi-Pirlo esque passes. Also, spacing is still an issue for teammates I still need to see if it be fixed more, it is better than the demo but defender is really hard at times because of this which leads me to the response of your teammates.

A lot of time I feel your teammates do a lot of ball watching and the react quickly enough to what is going on or loose balls. It is frustrating at times because it can make or break a goal or a clearance. Another thing is there is less emphasis on wing-play but it is still there but it is not as bad as the demo is, teams still do push the ball quickly but I am noticing some build up play at times. I can say that you can notice the different in skill level in players, even though some players turn on a dime.

Shooting feels lovely in this game as you can really weight on some shots and I also notice players shooting from outside the area. In my games against Chelsea and Man City players were ripping shots from range like crazy, none of them went in but the attempts are nice. A few last things, I do feel like teams do play somewhat differently, not on the level of the other game IMO but I get the feeling I want more out of teams I played. I have seen all the teams I played attack the same way at some point in a match. Players can sometimes get into box and just dribble around in the box and take forever to pass or shot it even when they are not marked or even one on one.

I also notice that the midfield battles is still somewhat of the weak part of the gameplay, most of the action happens on the wings and you don't see much going on in the middle of the pitch unless a tackle is made and a team ever so often decides to go on a counter from there, other than that I am still struggling to see the variation in tactics and strategy in the games I played, maybe I need to play a little bit more, we shall see. As for defending, I am not sure if I can judge just yet all I do now is that it takes some getting use to since your teammates don't pressure well enough on their own, you have to force them. However with sliders you can get the CPU opponent to apply some decent pressure. A big negative for me though is serious lack of fouls, the game REALLY needs a foul slider. I can hardly remember any fouls as with Handball setting on I see more handballs than fouls.

Overall, fun game however it just isn't fully quite "it" for me, whatever that means lol but so far I love the commentary and manual passes is awesome when you get it right and of course the games animations are a real treat for your eyes and weather really affect a match as players move slower and the ball moves slower on the pitch. I can give more impression later after I play with more teams.

EDIT: Also EA Football Club is pretty cool too. I like the challenges, one of them is called the "Comeback Against United" in which they drop you in last weekend Chelsea vs United game down 3-1 at 50min mark as you try to get a result out it in FIFA, nice touch EA.

[carnalnirvana]

i have a couple of gripes with the game, defending still leaves alot to be desired.

tactical defending used by the AI is a bit wonky and they get beat 9/10 times by attackers. cpu attackers still shift from side to side and turn soooooo fast defenders are often left flat footed. Also while i am pleased with player/user AI positioning most times, the fundamental defending logic is still severly broken as the game does not understand that defending is done as a unit.

man marking seems to work and i was pleased with the results i got when i matched players up on strikers.

tricks are being done by the wrong players, drogba doing roulettes/heel flicks/chops etc

a pleasant surprise was in the edit team screen, in previous years when editing players/teams if you wanted to edit in seria A but your profile/fav team was in the EPL it always defaulted back to the EPL team forcing you find the that team after each player edited now it stays on the team you are editing


i believe if you use everything the game lets you customize you can force the game to play good football, EX. use slders, custom formations( i feel the default ones are too bland especially the wonky work rate settings), man marking/tactics and re rated players(when necessary).

judging from gameplay only(my main focus) the only way this game will disappoint you is if you are an absolute football nut. if you like fifa you should love this game.....

[Altimus]

I thought increasing the number count of the slider increases the error of that category. So wouldn't passing at 30 make the AI's passing even better?

[slthree]

One Full game played as the United States

Lost 4-1 to the Netherlands

Game is visually a feast. It's beautiful. Stadium was awesome
Player Movement is fantastic.
Shooting is great.

Very Happy: CPU seemed to be working the possesion game in the midfield. Lots of passes laterally and a few backwards.

Bummed: I experienced no shots from distance the whole game

Big Problem: CPU never changed formation nor tactic despite blowing me out.

Bigger Problem: When the CPU finally made a change it was aterrible one. They took out Kuyt who was playing the left wing. Kuyt has strong work rate and gets back on defense regularly. He's an unselfish bulldog.

They replaced him with a hotshot kid ( Allefay) who has ZERO defensive aspirations. He's a trickster, a speed demon, offensive minded.

I hope everyone who has the game will pay attention to 2 things please:
1. cpu changing tactics/formation
2. cpu shooting from distance

If those 2 things happen I would buy this game

In my 2nd game and there is no commentary

[slthree]

OMG!!!

Using England v Netherlands and CPU Sneijder just had a go from way outside the box.It was a worm burner and an easy save but it was beautiful to see.

Edit: By games end, Sneijder attempted 2 more from distance.

Still, catching up with cpu players is near impossible.

Down 2-0 at the half and the Dutch have 66% possession. Numerous backwards passes as well as the midfielders pulling the ball back themselves.

If you don't know what that means: the ball handler is dribbling forward, probing. I cut him off and instead of immediately passing, he circles and dribbles back toward his goal before deciding to pass or turn upfield again.

This is glorious for a guy who didn't see any such probing in the demo.

I really should be sleeping.

Edit: 3 full games and only 1 foul by the cpu resulting in a free kick

With only 6 minutes left in the game I had a 3-2 lead and the cpu never pushed forward nor did they remove a defender for an attacker

I have not seen the cpu change formation yet.

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by Altimus

I thought increasing the number count of the slider increases the error of that category. So wouldn't passing at 30 make the AI's passing even better?

You are right I actually had it set to 65 when I checked my settings don't know where I got 30 from. I should be sleeping instead of play FIFA.

[rckabillyRaider]

Royce, you have my thoughts exactly. Game is good, but it's missing something. I can see myself getting bored quick.

The controls and animations are top notch. The sounds are also well done. Liked hearing the built in chant for Robbie Keane.

I set the cpu pass error to 100 and they still hit at least 80% of their passes and still out possessed me around 60-40.

The cpu keeper is way too good. Playing on world class and 9 min qtrs I got off 10 shots on target and scored none. Gotta play some more tomorrow when I'm not sleepy. Lol