NHL 12 Tuner Update v1.02 Released, Details Included

[mkharsh33]

So, you have clear information to back this claim up?

[Vikes1]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ceteris Paribus

Because you don't actually know where EA's bread is buttered. Most gamers, as in 95% of their sales, do not chat in forums and fiddle with sliders. So EA has to make the game fun for them, then try to put in sliders for the rest of us. Furthermore, too many of the slider junkies are going to pitch a fit an complain regardless. It's a $60 videogame, not a $250 simulation. the emphasis is on fun, and for 98% of their customers, the game delivers fun. I have a set of sliders that I think makes for a really nice, and even a bit sloppy, game. But it is not going to be good enough for someone that is only going to spend their time looking for what's wrong. That fan cannot be catered to. Period.

Imo...very well said, Ceteris.

My son [27 years old] is one of the 95% of the sales you mentioned. He enjoys the game as much as I do, and yep... he very messes with sliders or visits NHL message boards. And is excellent at the game.

Where as for me...I really enjoy being on our board, and even enjoy farting around with the sliders to try to find the gameplay I prefer. And yet we have a common ground...we both love the game. And have a blast playing together!

Also I do agree about the game being a video game...not a simulator. Even though it's referred to as such. Which imo, is a bit of a stretch by the company, and leaves themselves open to criticism. Of course it is only my opinion but...I do believe EA Canada has done a pretty decent job of developing a hockey game that can be enjoyed by most. As long as your not looking for a true simulation of the sport. Not too sure any "video game" has gotten to that point yet. Some closer than others I suppose. But I doubt absolute true sim.

[RealmK]

Quote: Originally Posted by mkharsh33

So, you have clear information to back this claim up?

Common sense perhaps?

[mkharsh33]

Quote: Originally Posted by RealmK

Common sense perhaps?

"Speculation" perhaps?

This is what's known as an "opinion" and not "fact." You can take your subtle dig at me all you want, but the truth is no one knows this for sure. But in the end it doesn't matter....

[Majingir]

Its sad how longs its taking this patch to come out. Late October is almost over.

Who will be mad if the patch is released the same time as the jersey codes(meaning it could have been ready weeks before,but they just released both at the same time)

[savoie2006]

Quote: Originally Posted by Majingir

Its sad how longs its taking this patch to come out. Late October is almost over. Who will be mad if the patch is released the same time as the jersey codes(meaning it could have been ready weeks before,but they just released both at the same time)

Well I remember back when 09 was released I believe it took until December sometime to release the first patch for the game. I think last years took quite a while as well, so I won't be that mad. I mean it could be alot worse, like 2K and only get a patch for one console or no patch at all. Basically it boils down to that I would rather EA take their time and get one patch done and done right so that another patch isn't required later.

[phillyfan23]

Quote: Originally Posted by RealmK

What difficulty did you test on, I see the cpu miss passes on SS with no edits at all. It doesn't happen as much as it should and I believe this is to make the cpu competitive vs humans more likely than not. Also I'm pretty sure there's a bug with passes being bobbled/hopping the stick on hard ones this year sadly.

i tested on both superstar and all star.....

cpu just don't miss their passes. Look at all gameplay footage on the net, everything tape to tape.

And this is not a difficulty level issue. I edited all the cpu players to have the lowest possible passing accuracy rating and even that made ZERO difference on how the cpu completed passes. ( tape to tape all the time).....with the lowest pass accuracy rating for all cpu players, they should be flat out having a hard time connecting simple and medium difficulty passes.

The rating is worthless for the cpu team, everyone passes with the same accuracy thus making Joe thornton feel the same as Aaron Asham in the passing department.

Do you not agree that this is a huge fundamental flaw making the game much less realistic and arcade??

[Fiddy]

Quote: Originally Posted by phillyfan23

making the game much less realistic and arcade??

it is an arcade game.. just with certain realistic elements tossed in!!