No Madden NFL 13 Super Bowl Halftime Blog

[dfos81]

Quote: Originally Posted by Broncos86

Certain games, like Forza 3, come with multiple discs. You then install the race tracks to the hard drive. But you can't count on that, which is why that aspect is optional for Forza 3. Madden's dev team cannot count on specific HDD space being available. Thus, just one disc. On the flip side, the PS3 splits the RAM. While both systems offer 512MB of total RAM, the PS3's RAM is dedicated and split. 256MB for system, 256MB for video. The 360's is shared. Meaning if the system only need 100MB, that leaves 412MB of RAM for video. To contrast, the PS3 is limited to 256MB of RAM for video regardless. THIS is the important aspect. Everything you see during a game is loaded into RAM. So even though the PS3 can offer more disc space, the system cannot load as much as the 360 into RAM. Less system RAM means lower quality textures.

So all they would need is an upgraded RAM..interesting.
Maybe thats the next gen OR THIS GEN.

70MB of additional RAM unlocked for PS3 developers
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/23/70...s3-developers/
So whats the limitations the developers have?
They need more storage for more improved A.I., better animations, etc. etc. Blu-Ray can hold all of this.
The visuals will benefit from the additional RAM but what about the major improvments we are searching for. Heres a quote from the article: "Generally it probably won't change design, but might allow extra effects resolution or dynamic lights or something. Probably more beneficial from the systems and art side then from design/gameplay."



Here's a good old video of what EA was touting "Next Gen", on what is now, this gen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...ajPL3Kna4&NR=1

[Broncos86]

Quote: Originally Posted by dfos81

Here's a good old video of what EA was touting "Next Gen", on what is now, this gen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...ajPL3Kna4&NR=1

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/09/12

In response to the Madden 06 trailer.

[unfriendlyghst]

that video right there is the 1 that soured it for most of us that came out during the superbowl the year that the xbox was released this is the football game that we all thought that we were getting buy madden 06 for next gen now and tell me what you think

[dfos81]

Quote: Originally Posted by Broncos86

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/09/12 In response to the Madden 06 trailer.

Exactly, 2006! What year are we in now



70MB of additional RAM unlocked for PS3 developers
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/23/70...s3-developers/
So whats the limitations the developers have?
They need more storage for more improved A.I., better animations, etc. etc. Blu-Ray can hold all of this. http://techland.time.com/2011/03/30/...h-for-blu-ray/


The visuals will benefit from the additional RAM but what about the major improvments we are searching for. Heres a quote from the article: "Generally it probably won't change design, but might allow extra effects resolution or dynamic lights or something. Probably more beneficial from the systems and art side then from design/gameplay."

[Broncos86]

Man, that article about the RAM is almost TWO years old. Who is to say they aren't using that already?

[dfos81]

Quote: Originally Posted by Broncos86

Man, that article about the RAM is almost TWO years old. Who is to say they aren't using that already?

They are...if so is the PS3 still only using the 256mb you mentioned? Who's really posting old specs?

[Broncos86]

Quote: Originally Posted by dfos81

They are...if so is the PS3 still only using the 256 you mentioned?

The extra 70MB were gained by reducing how big the OS is. So less of it is loading into RAM. They didn't increase the actual hardware capacity. So it's still 256MB/256MB. And that 70MB was saved on the system RAM side of things. That doesn't help video RAM at all.

Edit: That means that for Madden 11 and 12, this change was already present and the developers were aware of it.

[dfos81]

Quote: Originally Posted by Broncos86

The extra 70MB were gained by reducing how big the OS is. So less of it is loading into RAM.

So, essentially they didn't need to change the hardware to improve the RAM for video/visuals, lighting, etc.

So what does the "bottle neck" limit devos. have mean to you? They mentioned this in the Grantland thread.
Now since we've determined its not a RAM concern for improved gameplay, a.i. mechanics, etc. Thank you