NBA Live 13 Being Shown to Select Outlets Thursday

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by authentic

I don't think anyone here "hates" EA basketball. I think a lot of people are a little upset about past experiences with the game and how little has been released this year on it. I know I feel the pain from past games and how poorly they ran the game. It almost felt like EA was always trying to work on the bad parts and move on from the good parts. For instance, what was the point of cancelling the Live series after 10? I personally thought Live 10 made somes strides and was heading in the right direction. The turnaround from Live 10 to Elite 11 was disasterous and that's the reason they cancelled it. They didn't cancel it because it wasn't up to their standards or our standards, they cancelled it because it was a downright awful game that they could not support or fix in patches. I really don't know what's going on with Live 13, but I hope they can figure it out and get some competition out there. I have a feeling the earliest we'll see information on it will be in two weeks. As for the post that said that we're not passionate about Live, I think you're wrong. This is a public forum though, and there's always going to be people from the 2k boards coming here, and people from this section going there and saying things. I enjoy both games, so I just sit around and enjoy it.

See, don't agree with that. They cancelled it because they didn't have a choice once it got out throughout the community that it was a disaster and the other game had Jordan on the cover that would absolutely destroy them. If Jordan and the Jordan Challenge wasn't on 2K that year or EA had succeeded in getting exclusive rights like they'd been trying to do for years, you can bet your *** that Elite 11 would be sitting on store shelves right now. They had a choice to support NCAA 10 and the ability to fix that in patches and didn't do that so I doubt being unable to support or fix Elite with patches had much of anything to do with it getting the axe days before release.

[noshun]

Quote: Originally Posted by King_B_Mack

See, don't agree with that. They cancelled it because they didn't have a choice once it got out throughout the community that it was a disaster and the other game had Jordan on the cover that would absolutely destroy them. If Jordan and the Jordan Challenge wasn't on 2K that year or EA had succeeded in getting exclusive rights like they'd been trying to do for years, you can bet your *** that Elite 11 would be sitting on store shelves right now. They had a choice to support NCAA 10 and the ability to fix that in patches and didn't do that so I doubt being unable to support or fix Elite with patches had much of anything to do with it getting the axe days before release.

They cancelled it because Hard8times is Michael Knight, and his Jesus Bynum video was Kitt.

"one man can make a difference..."





He single handedly shut a game studio dept down, got a whole dev team replaced, a project switched to another country, a new team hired and assembled at Tiburon with gregorian chants and tealight hallway socials, made them salvage from the scrap heap, and shut down all marketing showings of the new project for a bit.

[authentic]

Quote: Originally Posted by King_B_Mack

See, don't agree with that. They cancelled it because they didn't have a choice once it got out throughout the community that it was a disaster and the other game had Jordan on the cover that would absolutely destroy them. If Jordan and the Jordan Challenge wasn't on 2K that year or EA had succeeded in getting exclusive rights like they'd been trying to do for years, you can bet your *** that Elite 11 would be sitting on store shelves right now. They had a choice to support NCAA 10 and the ability to fix that in patches and didn't do that so I doubt being unable to support or fix Elite with patches had much of anything to do with it getting the axe days before release.

Jordan or not, elite was getting cancelled. You act like game developers no nothing about video games and how they work.

[captaintuna]

Quote: Originally Posted by authentic

Jordan or not, elite was getting cancelled. You act like game developers no nothing about video games and how they work.

Exactly. LOL @ anyone who thinks that Elite got cancelled because it didn't have Jordan in their game. Who really cares about someone who last played nearly a decade ago? If 2K spends half the time on improving player animations and player control instead of "shoving" Michael Jordan down our throats every year now.....then maybe EA's Live would have received the final nail in the coffin.

[coolcras7]

Quote: Originally Posted by captaintuna

Exactly. LOL @ anyone who thinks that Elite got cancelled because it didn't have Jordan in their game. Who really cares about someone who last played nearly a decade ago? If 2K spends half the time on improving player animations and player control instead of "shoving" Michael Jordan down our throats every year now.....then maybe EA's Live would have received the final nail in the coffin.

A-lot of older people like myself care about Michael Jordan you can try to down play his evolvement all you want, but when his new shoe comes out people stand in lines, he can still sell a product and is still considered the best ever, but back to your comparison 2k11 developmental team did not sit by and say we got Jordan thats all we need, no they created what is considered the best sports simulation to date and cause EA to scrap the release of an inferior product.

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by authentic

Jordan or not, elite was getting cancelled. You act like game developers no nothing about video games and how they work.

Wait, WTF are you talking about? How do I act like developers know nothing about video games and how they work? If you don't remember what happened back then you should probably excuse yourself from the conversation. Jordan or not Elite was getting cancelled? No it wasn't cause it was already gold and ready to ship to stores. The game got delayed a friggin week before release. You seem to have it made up in your head already that they were sitting around doing some play testing and decided it wasn't up to their standard of excellence. Wrong. It was past the testing point already, they knew what was in that game and what was wrong with it already. The only reason they even delayed it is because of the hard8times video exposing what a disaster they had on their hands, that and Jordan being on the cover of 2K and they knew it was going to crush Elite at that point. Maybe they just bit the bullet and cancelled it a few weeks later after that because of their standard (doubt it) but if not for hard8times and Jordan, Elite would have dropped business as usual.

Quote: Originally Posted by captaintuna

Exactly. LOL @ anyone who thinks that Elite got cancelled because it didn't have Jordan in their game. Who really cares about someone who last played nearly a decade ago? If 2K spends half the time on improving player animations and player control instead of "shoving" Michael Jordan down our throats every year now.....then maybe EA's Live would have received the final nail in the coffin.

I said I wasn't going to actually respond to any of the stuff you post around here but this...seriously....

Who really cares? Apparently whoever is responsible for those 5 million+ copies sold of 2K11 that I guarantee you at least a few people who were going to buy Elite are apart of. But whatever helps you sleep at night bro.

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Somebody explain to me, how the hell something like this even makes it to a week before release before it becomes clear that it and I'm quoting Peter Moore here, "would benefit from more time in development."

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Quote: Originally Posted by captaintuna

Exactly. LOL @ anyone who thinks that Elite got cancelled because it didn't have Jordan in their game. Who really cares about someone who last played nearly a decade ago? If 2K spends half the time on improving player animations and player control instead of "shoving" Michael Jordan down our throats every year now.....then maybe EA's Live would have received the final nail in the coffin.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by authentic

I'm just happy EA isn't throwing out crazy marketing hype over their game. We've seen what 2k's so called "Great announcement of all-time" has created. All it's created on this board is disappointment and trust issues. I'm not sure how this Live title is going to be, but I have faith that they can eventually release a solid product in the future.

Wow. So 2k claiming a "major announcement" isn't the same as EA doing things "never seen in a game" hype? Blind and biased, thy name is 'authentic'.