Madden NFL 13 Ratings - Complete QB Ratings

[StreetCarp]

Quote: Originally Posted by jmurphy31

I agree with this. He really hasnt played in the NFL yet and should be in the 70's. Just because it is a competition doesn't mean they are close skill wise.

I disagree. Hasselbeck is way too high. He should be high 70s/low 80s. Although that would be even weirder because then Sanchez would be his superior...

[Candyman5]

Christian Ponder having the same overall as Chad Henne and Blain Gabbert irritates me a lot.

[IUxHOOSIERS]

Bob Griffin is overrated already. 95 THP? Wow is all I have to say.

[codyj123_321]

Quote: Originally Posted by N51_rob

Umm....Luck isn't that much slower than Newton. Cam Newton doesn't run away from DB's he runs around and over them. It takes more than an arm tackle to bring him down. Luck can do the same thing. Lets not forget the one handed catch he made when lined up at WR. To say Newton has speed, but Luck does not. Pretty much leads me to believe you don't watch much football or at least didn't watch a lot of Luck at Stanford.

I watch quite a bit of football buddy. Luck has decent speed, but if were saying him and Cam run the same speed then apparently it's you who don't watch alot of football or at least you haven't watched a lot of Cam Newton the past 2 years. I know your gonna say look at there 40 times, but that's without the gear and pads on.

[N51_rob]

Quote: Originally Posted by codyj123_321

I watch quite a bit of football buddy. Luck has decent speed, but if were saying him and Cam run the same speed then apparently it's you who don't watch alot of football or at least you haven't watched a lot of Cam Newton the past 2 years. I know your gonna say look at there 40 times, but that's without the gear and pads on.

If you say so. I said Luck isn't as "fast" as Cam. But Cam isn't in the same league as RGIII either.

I will say it again, because you seem to have gleamed over it. Cam doesn't run away from DBs he run around and through them. It takes more than an arm tackle to bring him down. He is a mobile QB, for you to say that Luck is "slow" and Cam is "fast" is just asinine.

Look at Cams run against Tampa Bay he got past on guy with a juke, and then got caught by a DB who couldn't bring him down. That is what makes Cam special as a runner. He is a 245 lb QB that is shifty, and powerful. Not because he is fast. Luck is the same way, when he uses his feet he can get yards because he is bigger than most DBs and has enough can run through arm tackles.

[HandsomeJack]

It's a small complaint, but Ponder should be at least as fast as Rodgers (80.) He had a (slightly) better 40 time at the combine coming out of college (4.65 to 4.71) and last year he had a higher per rush average (7.8 to 4.3--with defenses putting 8 in the box against the Vikings in most games) than Rodgers did. Ponder may not be very good in any other area, but he is a very good scrambler--and should be just below the upper echelon guys imo. I know I'll be bumping him up to an 80 or 81 when I get the game.

[codyj123_321]

Quote: Originally Posted by N51_rob

If you say so. I said Luck isn't as "fast" as Cam. But Cam isn't in the same league as RGIII either. I will say it again, because you seem to have gleamed over it. Cam doesn't run away from DBs he run around and through them. It takes more than an arm tackle to bring him down. He is a mobile QB, for you to say that Luck is "slow" and Cam is "fast" is just asinine. Look at Cams run against Tampa Bay he got past on guy with a juke, and then got caught by a DB who couldn't bring him down. That is what makes Cam special as a runner. He is a 245 lb QB that is shifty, and powerful. Not because he is fast. Luck is the same way, when he uses his feet he can get yards because he is bigger than most DBs and has enough can run through arm tackles.

Pleas quote where i said Luck is slow. I never did all i said was that RG3 and Cam can make more plays with there feet. Also, i never said Cam was as fast as RG3. I said Cam is faster than Luck because a blind man can see that. Especially if were talking about college, cause some of the runs Newton made at Auburn on very good teams Luck would have been tackled cause he doesn't have the speed. So yes Cam isn't in RG3's class, but Luck isn't in Newton's class either.


Luck's speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4_w-puInqY

Newton's speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOi2hj_sjyY

As you can see Newton is clearly faster and can reach top speed a lot faster than Luck. So unless you got some other proof then no need to go any further.

[Chrisksaint]

Quote: Originally Posted by codyj123_321

Pleas quote where i said Luck is slow. I never did all i said was that RG3 and Cam can make more plays with there feet. Also, i never said Cam was as fast as RG3. I said Cam is faster than Luck because a blind man can see that. Especially if were talking about college, cause some of the runs Newton made at Auburn on very good teams Luck would have been tackled cause he doesn't have the speed. So yes Cam isn't in RG3's class, but Luck isn't in Newton's class either. Luck's speed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4_w-puInqY Newton's speed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOi2hj_sjyY As you can see Newton is clearly faster and can reach top speed a lot faster than Luck. So unless you got some other proof then no need to go any further.

Bad choice of plays for your argument, Luck in that plays shows greater straight line speed compared to Cam. The Cam TD was a lot of cutting, broken tackles, missed tackles, bad angles etc.

Cam isn't in RG3 speed category, but he's around the same as Luck imo just a better runner with the ball in his hand