NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

[djwax90]

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

You're the one saying that a player can affect a team's defense without even being there. That's ludicrous.

Chandler affected the Mavs defense in 2011, even while he was on the bench. Not because he was on the bench, but because he had changed the defensive culture of the team. I'm guessing you didn't watch the clip. I guess when Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, and JJ Barea agree with me (or vice versa) on this point, the point must be flawed somehow.

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

The point is that Chandler is not as important to his team defensively as people think.

You, sir, are clearly in the minority with that opinion. In fact, that's the first time I've heard anyone say that, but I guess there's a first time for everything.

[JCEVO]

all i know and care about. if SS is anything like APF 2k8 version of signature skills then this will be a major plus for basketball games. one thing i hope is they didnt build the SS system under the old rating/tendency system

there should be a new rating system and catergories as well as tendency

[Rdub33]

If I know Dwight or chandler is anchoring my defense I am going to be confident crowding my guy and forcing him baseline. Whereas if I I have Channing frye behind me I'm giving cushion u better believe it. Ryan that is why anchors make their teams better.

[RyanFitzmagic]

Quote: Originally Posted by djwax90

Chandler affected the Mavs defense in 2011, even while he was on the bench. Not because he was on the bench, but because he had changed the defensive culture of the team. I'm guessing you didn't watch the clip. I guess when Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, and JJ Barea agree with me (or vice versa) on this point, the point must be flawed somehow.

Or maybe it was because of the coaching :-O

Quote: Originally Posted by djwax90

You, sir, are clearly in the minority with that opinion. In fact, that's the first time I've heard anyone say that, but I guess there's a first time for everything.

I already posted statistical evidence that the Mavs were Top 10 with Chandler in 2011 and Top 10 without him in 2012. You can put your fingers in your ear and go "lalalalala I can't hear you" if you want, but that won't make me wrong.

[youALREADYknow]

Pretty much what was expected: Some good, some bad. It's still going to come down to roster implementation at the end of the day, so we won't know the final verdict until October 2nd.

My only problem with what was posted are some of the modifiers. 6-12 point attribute point changes for teammates/opponents because of a player having a Sig Skill are a bit drastic. 10-30% differences in probabilities are drastic changes from the baseline.

I know why it was done though. They want the effect to be obvious and in your face. It's still somewhat arcade-based and something I'd expect from an NBA Jam game. Quite a few of the skills can be manipulated for the sim crowd when combined with objective and very thoroughly designed rosters and that's the good news that can be taken away from this.

[Thunder Storm]

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

Once again, no one said defensive anchors don't exist. But players don't magically become better because of them. Defensive anchors cover up mistakes, they don't decrease them.

I get what you're saying. IRL Chandler cannot make Steve Novak a better on-ball defender.

but for the GAMES sake it works. It balances out the effect that floor general will plus it will make so that the in-game team defensive rating replicates the real life defensive rating.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

Once again, no one said defensive anchors don't exist. But players don't magically become better because of them. Defensive anchors cover up mistakes, they don't decrease them.

So why are we even discussing this then? Now you're REALLY arguing semantics. If I'm on the perimeter, I know with a guy like Chandler, I can take more risks and have them covered up. But the times I succeed go up. There's a net positive there! What do you want to call that effect?

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by JCEVO

all i know and care about. if SS is anything like APF 2k8 version of signature skills then this will be a major plus for basketball games. one thing i hope is they didnt build the SS system under the old rating/tendency system there should be a new rating system and catergories as well as tendency

I COMPLETELY agree with you man. But one step at a time.