MLB 2K13 Initial Reviews Quite Negative

[steelereign]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baile

Okay great, I just wonder about it when someone calls people "whiners." If you enjoy the game, that's fab. But why go out of your way to be so defensive and so protective of your decision to buy it? Your point about justifying charging $60 for 2K13 is something I mentioned as well. For people new to the series, they'd pay that anyway for the game. But you're not taking into consideration that 2K worked on this game for only a couple of months. Looking at it that way, it's a pure money-grab. They put in 1/6 of the development time other companies put into their games, but charge the same full amount. There's definitely something sleazy and somewhat immoral about that IMO.

I hear ya. Maybe I should have been more specific about to whom I was referring as whiners. My issue is with those that do nothing but complain about the issues without taking time to talk about the good things. It's all subjective, I get that. But, there are some that come on here to do nothing but whine and pile on.

I understand your point about the $60 price tag versus the development time. But, you know the market doesn't work that way - for any product really.


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[JazzMan]

From what I understand, both MLB the Show and MLB 2k's games this year have not been ground-shaking improvements upon their respective franchises. So how is it that the Show '13 gets the same score, if not better, than '12, while MLB 2k13 gets a 4, even though the game a year ago got, what, a 7.5 or something?

You guys whine about 2k13 being the same game with some minor improvements. Then some of you complain about the removal of 2k's Online Leagues. Does that really warrant a 4 rating? Online Leagues were pretty lackluster to begin with.

Meanwhile, the Show does nothing new, doesn't make many improvements, but no worries! It gets a 9. Then you get all of the guys on here hailing the Show as the best sports game of this generation, even though it is essentially a "roster update" as you call 2k13.

You can't dock 2k13 in a review and then turn around and praise this year's Show like it's the best baseball game of all-time (MVP 2005 anyone?).

Besides, the Show is obviously overrated. I've enjoyed the iterations that I've played, but from what I've seen, the game can still use some work. It looks and sounds ultra-realistic, but I honestly feel as though 2k has superior gameplay, other than a slew of glitches here and there.

The Show is the more polished game, but what angers me are the people who bash on MLB2k. The game plays pretty well. I purchased 2k12 last year, and I enjoyed it. I don't see why people feel it's a necessity to **** on MLB2k.

Personally, I feel as though MLB2k should take a year off, and come back strong with a Next-Gen product.

[Baile]

Quote: Originally Posted by steelereign

I understand your point about the $60 price tag versus the development time. But, you know the market doesn't work that way - for any product really.

That's correct and I'm aware of that. For the X number of 360 gamers who are buying 2K13 for the first time, it's a new game. And paying $60 for a new game is normal, and there's no issue with development time, 2K12 comparisons, etc. It's all perspective, and that's one of the issues I had with the OS review.

[Baile]

Quote: Originally Posted by tyklug2013

From what I understand, both MLB the Show and MLB 2k's games this year have not been ground-shaking improvements upon their respective franchises. So how is it that the Show '13 gets the same score, if not better, than '12, while MLB 2k13 gets a 4, even though the game a year ago got, what, a 7.5 or something?

The honest answer to that will create too much of a stir around here, so let's just call it the Paul Dean/Billy Chow factor. Paul Dean was this poor little kid I knew growing up who everyone at school picked on, just because they could and without consequence. But nobody picked on Billy Chow. He was 6 foot tall and weighed 240 lbs at the age of 14. Nobody said boo to him.

[steelereign]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baile

You know how many 9 inning games I've played the past 3 years? 0. I spend almost all my time with this game testing the game engine, playing 3-inning test games to observe things like hit variety and ball physics. The hit variety and ball physics are entirely a byproduct of the player ratings and slider settings, interacting with the game engine. This game hasn't changed in years in that regard. If you want to see MLB-realism when it comes to hit variety and ball physics, simply lower hitting ratings way down. I have a test roster where every player is rated 25 (0 actually) in every catagory. In many ways, that roster plays more like MLB baseball than any roster I have in which players are rated above 25. If you're seeing better ball physics and more hit variety, it's because the devs lowered player ratings and/or tweaked the default slider settings. Because I understand they didn't even bother to update the opening to the game, and simply used the one from last year. So there's just no way they spent any time with something as complex as the game engine. They haven't done that in years, why would they suddenly do that now that the series is defunct?

Okay, maybe that's true. But, for the majority of people who play baseball games, those slider/ratings changes made a difference out of the box. I would imagine that most have no interest in evaluating the game to the depth that you do.

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[dalger21]

I was interested in getting MLB2K '13 (or '12) simply to see how good the "My Player" (or whatever the equivalent to RttS is) was. I know that the 2K games have traditionally done poorly in regards to the other game but wanted to give it a try. Perhaps I'll pick up '12 since there seems to be a consensus that '13 is just a rehash of '12. Any input about that would be greatly appreciated.

[steelereign]

Quote: Originally Posted by dalger21

I was interested in getting MLB2K '13 (or '12) simply to see how good the "My Player" (or whatever the equivalent to RttS is) was. I know that the 2K games have traditionally done poorly in regards to the other game but wanted to give it a try. Perhaps I'll pick up '12 since there seems to be a consensus that '13 is just a rehash of '12. Any input about that would be greatly appreciated.

The consensus seems to be to stick with 12, and I can't argue against that. If you like slider adjustments then there seems to be little reason to go with 2k13.

If your primary reason is to play My Player then stick with 12. I don't play that mode, but from what I've read, there is no change to that mode.

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[Baile]

Quote: Originally Posted by dalger21

Perhaps I'll pick up '12 since there seems to be a consensus that '13 is just a rehash of '12. Any input about that would be greatly appreciated.

If you don't have either game, I would think having the Astros in the AL would be a worthwhile reason to get 2K13.