MLB 2K13 Initial Reviews Quite Negative

[dubcity]

Quote: Originally Posted by steelereign

Why would a company discount their new product just because there is still inventory of their old product in the market? Car manufacturers roll out the same model of car year after year with minimal, if any changes. They don't drop the MSRP because there is a used car market. Sent from my SCH-R530U using Tapatalk 2

Well, I have a hard time going along with that analogy. A used copy of MLB 2K12 is literally the same as a brand new one in terms of the quality of the product. That's not the case with a used car. A better analogy would be college textbook companies reprinting the same book year after year, buying up all the previous editions from campus bookstores, and ripping off students by charging full price for the same book year and after year. I'm sure 2K would have attempted to buy up used copies if they actually cared enough about this project. Yeah, it's the free market at work, but that doesn't mean they should be free from criticism and derision.

[dubcity]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baile

If you don't have either game, I would think having the Astros in the AL would be a worthwhile reason to get 2K13.

But is it worth the 40-45 dollar price difference?

[Mt Oread]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubcity

Well, I have a hard time going along with that analogy. A used copy of MLB 2K12 is literally the same as a brand new one in terms of the quality of the product. That's not the case with a used car. A better analogy would be college textbook companies reprinting the same book year after year, buying up all the previous editions from campus bookstores, and ripping off students by charging full price for the same book year and after year. I'm sure 2K would have attempted to buy up used copies if they actually cared enough about this project. Yeah, it's the free market at work, but that doesn't mean they should be free from criticism and derision.

This is fundamentally not true. We can debate the value of the improvements to AI, team colors, and updated rosters and alignments, but it's completely false to call it the equal in quality. It may still be a better value to get 2K12, but the problem with the reviews is that they ignore that in favor of childlike tantrums.

The reviews are not a disservice because they didn't like 2K13, they are a disservice because they failed to actually review the game instead of the business plan. Discussing the the business plan and how that value relates to the gamer is only worthwhile if they actually address the game. There is no indication to me that they actually played for more than 30 minutes before acting out like 5-year-olds.

[steelereign]

That's a subjective decision. To me it was.

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[dubcity]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mt Oread

This is fundamentally not true. We can debate the value of the improvements to AI, team colors, and updated rosters and and alignments, but it's completely false to call it the equal in quality. It may still be a better value to get 2K12, but the problem with the reviews is that they ignore that in favor of childlike tantrums.

I was referring to a used copy of 12 vs a new copy of 12. The depreciation (or lack thereof) in value of a used game is kinda different than that of a used car. Is MLB 2k13 worth 40-45 dollars more than 2K12 right now? I don't think it's childlike at all to look at things from a consumers perspective first and foremost. If a critic just sat back and said, "yeah, it's not worth anywhere near $60, but it's still a good game and you should definitely buy it," that would be ridiculous to me.

[steelereign]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubcity

Well, I have a hard time going along with that analogy. A used copy of MLB 2K12 is literally the same as a brand new one in terms of the quality of the product. That's not the case with a used car. A better analogy would be college textbook companies reprinting the same book year after year, buying up all the previous editions from campus bookstores, and ripping off students by charging full price for the same book year and after year. I'm sure 2K would have attempted to buy up used copies if they actually cared enough about this project. Yeah, it's the free market at work, but that doesn't mean they should be free from criticism and derision.

They are not literally the same. I feel that 2k13 is better. Not by a landslide, maybe only by the width of mosquito's eyelash. But enough for me.

I agree that this game is due criticism. I guess we disagree on the price. Trust me, I would have preferred to pay less. But that wasn't going to happen, nor did I expect it to.

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[dubcity]

Quote: Originally Posted by steelereign

I agree that this game is due criticism. I guess we disagree on the price. Trust me, I would have preferred to pay less. But that wasn't going to happen, nor did I expect it to. Sent from my SCH-R530U using Tapatalk 2

I didn't either. It would have been a breath of fresh air though, right?

[steelereign]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubcity

I didn't either. It would have been a breath of fresh air though, right?

For sure.

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