Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass with SmartGlass Video, Screenshots & Previews (Xbox One)

[TeeDogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Part one is called innovation, part two is called implementation. I like the innovation part, now, I need to see how it works. The big however for me, though, is PS4 is on the horizon, not the xbone.

Implementation is where EA struggles most. But either way I won't be using it, however I can see where this is scratching the surface of some pretty major possibilities for guys who like coach mode.

[tfer717]

I don't know what's a more worrisome possibility.. The fact that EA continues to use the same camera angle cut scenes and crappy presentation features and doesn't realize what we want as fans.. or the fact that they do realize their terrible ways and don't care. I think we are all starting to come to terms with the latter.

[criscarter]

So, this feature is actually pretty neat, if implemented correctly.

But the video actually brought down my expectations of Madden next-gen dramatically. A few things looked a lot better, like the crowd. The rest? Marginal improvements at best. Slightly improved graphics, same cut scenes, same game play. Really disappointing.

[guaps]

Seems like an interesting idea.

I'm on the PS4, however, and would rather have an app to manage my franchise mode. I spend a lot of time browsing menues and it would be nice if we could do team management, trades, owner mode features etc. on a touch screen instead of using the controller.

Also was surprised to learn that the videos were next-gen footage. I honestly didn't notice until I read the comments. This means I'll probably cancel my pre-order as I don't need the same game on two different generations of consoles.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

That's just it though Road, i honestly don't believe EA Tiburon is bad at implementation, it's that we misunderstand the innovation. For example, throw a receiver open in M13 was always intended to change a receivers route with the controller because a developer told us so from the jump. (Illustrator76 pointed it out in video blogs for NCAA 13). We tend to give EA Tiburon the benefit of the doubt and state how good premises seem to get lost in translation when implemented but the translation lost is when we misunderstand what they intended to happen all along. I can see it now, people posting about CoachGlass and how it should be expanded to help AI play calling and blah, blah, blah, next year. Only to have it be ignored the next year or continue down the gimmicky path it was intended for since it's inception. EA Tiburon is making Madden the game they want, that they believe will make them the most money and the things implemented contrary to NFL representation that we see as mistakes are mostly intentional design.

I agree with most of this, especially the part they make the game they want to and the Illy part too. You have history on your side, if I put the word gimmick on it, I feel as though I'm putting the cart before the horse before I see more this in action.

For me, it seems like a sim feature with potential.(potential being the key word) One can only dream that tiered-play calling is ringing on the doorstep.

History can change, too, but will it? Time will tell.

[Dogslax41]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

That's just it though Road, i honestly don't believe EA Tiburon is bad at implementation, it's that we misunderstand the innovation. For example, throw a receiver open in M13 was always intended to change a receivers route with the controller because a developer told us so from the jump. (Illustrator76 pointed it out in video blogs for NCAA 13). We tend to give EA Tiburon the benefit of the doubt and state how good premises seem to get lost in translation when implemented but the translation lost is when we misunderstand what they intended to happen all along. I can see it now, people posting about CoachGlass and how it should be expanded to help AI play calling and blah, blah, blah, next year. Only to have it be ignored the next year or continue down the gimmicky path it was intended for since it's inception. EA Tiburon is making Madden the game they want, that they believe will make them the most money and the things implemented contrary to NFL representation that we see as mistakes are mostly intentional design.

I could not possibly agree more. This is one of those things that its easy to see what potential it would have to the game when used correctly and I can predict with almost certainty that the feature will fade into oblivion when Microsoft finishes pushing their tablet sales. Meanwhile sim players will be left dreaming about how easily they could have taken a gimmick technology they added and made it meaningful. Just like the gameplan feature they added and then I went in and edited every single CPU gameplan and had the game playing perfectly from a CPU play calling standpoint and then EA patched the game and removes the ability to set the CPU gameplan. I still get infuriated everytime I think about that because of how much fun I was finally having with Madden only to have it ripped out of my hands by the people that I had to work to fix their omission in the first place.

[dat swag]

as an online player there is no way this feature can be used when someoe is no huddling and quick hiking...Cool but not useful

[dat swag]

Quote: Originally Posted by Brooke2011

Attachment 67205 material on the uniforms looks better. Helmets and pants have the right shine to them

At the end of the day if the game plays better and the gameplay is more stable, animations are improved I'll be content in year one of the next gen console iteration of Madden