NBA 2K15 Player Rating - Andre Drummond (Overall 83)

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

Drummond 22.6 PER - 13th in NBA 59.9 TS% on 16.7 USG% (42 FT%) - 9th in NBA for TS% 17.5 ORB% - 1st in NBA by a mile - 2nd was 14.4% from Damuel Dalembert 27.7 DRB% - 9th in NBA 2.2 AST% 2.0 STL% - elite mark for a center 4.0 BLK% - 10th in NBA Jordan 18.2 PER 63.0 TS% on 12.4 USG% (43 FT%) - 4th in NBA for TS% 13.3 ORB% - 5th in NBA 29.3 DRB% - 4th in NBA 3.7 AST% 1.4 STL% 5.4 BLK% - 4th in NBA They are very similar players, same strengths and weaknesses. However, Drummond had the best offensive rebounding season in 18 years, and 17th best in NBA history. Players with better seasons Dennis Rodman: 6 Moses Malone: 5 Jayson Williams: 2 Popeye Jones, Chris Dudley, Larry Smith: 1 each Drummond was better than a few Rodman/Moses seasons, better than any season Hakeem, Barkley, or Reggie Evans and all other rebound specialists ever had. Going by 2K's rating scale, Drummond would deserve 113 ORB rating. That's how good his Age 20 season was (it goes without saying that Drummond is EASILY the youngest player ever to put up those kind of ORB numbers.).

Jordan still led the league in rebounding, and is a better all around defender, by a fairly large margin right now. We can say Drummond had the best ORB% in 100 years, but Jordan was still the better all around rebounder, and led the league in FG%..

Not saying either or should have a higher overall, but they should be very similar.. I could understand Drummond being a nice bump higher if the whole "value to their team" rating is how it really is.. But that makes me question if players overall changes if they move teams, or if the team adds new players, which that to me wouldn't make much sense.


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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by ojandpizza

Jordan still led the league in rebounding, and is a better all around defender, by a fairly large margin right now. We can say Drummond had the best ORB% in 100 years, but Jordan was still the better all around rebounder, and led the league in FG%.. Not saying either or should have a higher overall, but they should be very similar.. I could understand Drummond being a nice bump higher if the whole "value to their team" rating is how it really is.. But that makes me question if players overall changes if they move teams, or if the team adds new players, which that to me wouldn't make much sense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm not positive, but I don't think this is true. I'm pretty sure Drummond's TRB% was higher than DeAndre as well.

I do agree that DeAndre is probably a better defender at this point in time though.

Regarding the bottom part of your post, they said that their overalls will not change when traded. They simply have many different overall formulas, and whichever results in the highest overall for a given player is the one that is displayed regardless of the team fit.

[luda06]

Quote: Originally Posted by SuperNova854

If Drummond is an 83 DeAndre Jordan better be at least an 85. DJ had a much better season then Drummond did. I was expecting a 78 for Drummond.

If the playoffs determine having a much better season, then I'd agree with you.

Drummond finished the season with 57 double-doubles, which is only second to Kevin Love. Jordan is a distant 8th place with 42.

Drummond had some astounding performances last season as well, in which his best performance included a game with 31 points, 19 boards, 6 steals, and 2 blocks. Unfortunately for the casual fan, that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Andre's a beast, and it's pretty sad that so many are ignorant of how dominant he can be in the paint, or simply on defense alone.

Anyways, I compiled some feeds of how easy his buckets were last season. Imagine what Stan Van Gundy will do with this young man. More touches? Plays being called for him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE6Kc66L-1U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2jvP0INvt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFQ8EYNfE60

[eko718]

In my PC roster update, I had Drummond exactly at 83. I rate for accuracy of individual ratings, not for overalls. 83 is not the stretch it sounds like it may be... it wasn't hard for him to get there when rated accurately.

[jr2424]

Quote: Originally Posted by luda06

If the playoffs determine having a much better season, then I'd agree with you. Drummond finished the season with 57 double-doubles, which is only second to Kevin Love. Jordan is a distant 8th place with 42. Drummond had some astounding performances last season as well, in which his best performance included a game with 31 points, 19 boards, 6 steals, and 2 blocks. Unfortunately for the casual fan, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Andre's a beast, and it's pretty sad that so many are ignorant of how dominant he can be in the paint, or simply on defense alone. Anyways, I compiled some feeds of how easy his buckets were last season. Imagine what Stan Van Gundy will do with this young man. More touches? Plays being called for him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE6Kc66L-1U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2jvP0INvt8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFQ8EYNfE60

If Van Gundy's last couple of seasons in Orlando are any indication, Drummond will be called upon to set a lot of screens and roll to the rim, which will suck in the defense for open 3s. The Magic were known for all the 3s they took despite having Howard in the middle. Maybe Van Gundy will run more post-ups now because Greg Monroe can't stretch the floor like Rashard Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu could.

[DonWuan]

Have they mentioned anything about fixing rotations?

With the new rating system, will guys like Kyle korver end up 12th man because of rating.

[stillfeelme]

Drummond and Jordan will be very close in rating. +/- 1. They both lack a post game but Drummond appears to be able to dribble a little bit with the ball nothing fancy but that is what I noticed. He moves like a SF with the ball at 270Lbs
Inside scoring: These dudes are 60%+ shooters they will be capped at 99
Speed: DeAndre by my eyes
Agility: Slight edge to Jordan
Vertical: about even
Dunking: about even
OREB: Drummond
DREB: Jordan
Post Def: Opp FG% 39% Drummond, Jordan 41% slight edge but so small you would call them about even.
Post Off: 40FG% Drummond, 48% Jordan Jordan has the advantage here but neither are really good in the post.
Opp FG% at rim: 53% Drummond, Jordan 50%. They are good but not elite rim protectors are usually 40's and less
Defensive awareness: Hard to say but neither one appears to be overly better than the other.

I expect Jordan to be like a 83 or 84.

[ojandpizza]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy

I'm not positive, but I don't think this is true. I'm pretty sure Drummond's TRB% was higher than DeAndre as well. I do agree that DeAndre is probably a better defender at this point in time though. Regarding the bottom part of your post, they said that their overalls will not change when traded. They simply have many different overall formulas, and whichever results in the highest overall for a given player is the one that is displayed regardless of the team fit.

But rebound % only takes into account the number of rebounds available to a player, which also falls a lot on how active a player is on the glass, how often he decides to chase a rebound that doesn't bounce right to him..

For example Roy Hibbertt has a relatively high rebound %, he does every season. Yet he's one of the worse rebounding guys over 7 feet in the league, averaging a little over 6 last year.

Jordan averages a higher RPG average and a higher RP36 minute average than Drummond, even though Drummond has a better TR%.. This basically tells me that Jordan is more active on the glass, more like to go get a rebound if that makes sense.

This is all just nitpicking anyways, they both should have damn near maxed out rebounding ratings.. Both have similar offensive ratings which is basically dunk only, I think the difference would be in defense which isn't a large difference but should be represented..

Though I doubt 2K has Jordan rated as high as Drummond.


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