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Old 09-11-2014, 01:51 PM   #217
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*Sigh*....just noticed something else gone. Just played my 5th season game in BeaGM and it does not keep track of stats. No matter how many goals you score with someone each game it will always show as his first. Funny many came to terms with the missing game modes but these things are just inexcusable. I know many are so in love with the gameplay and I am liking it too but its like hooking up with the girl of your dreams and the first few dates are awesome, but you slowly begin to realize the more you spend time with her you realize she's an idiot, you have nothing in common, and can't stand talking to her. At some point you have to accept its just not going to work out. That's how I'm starting to feel.
Yeah, with all the missing stuff in this game and saying they focused on game play and presentation, things like you mention should not happen. I was hoping they changed that and even comment in the game, "Oshie scores his 23rd league leading goal" or something like that.

I'm beginning to wonder how much actual work was done on the game.
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Old 09-11-2014, 02:51 PM   #218
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This is a good example of the kind of defending I've seen regularly so far:



That was from my first game with the retail version. Gáborík just stands there and completely ignores the guy he's supposed to be defending.
This is one of the things that shakes my head when people praising EA NHL gameplay. Sure its an improvement of NHL 13...but still there are annoying plays present before like in NHL 10 onwards and still being IGNORED by EA.
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Old 09-11-2014, 02:58 PM   #219
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*Sigh*....just noticed something else gone. Just played my 5th season game in BeaGM and it does not keep track of stats. No matter how many goals you score with someone each game it will always show as his first. Funny many came to terms with the missing game modes but these things are just inexcusable. I know many are so in love with the gameplay and I am liking it too but its like hooking up with the girl of your dreams and the first few dates are awesome, but you slowly begin to realize the more you spend time with her you realize she's an idiot, you have nothing in common, and can't stand talking to her. At some point you have to accept its just not going to work out. That's how I'm starting to feel.
EXACTLY....... I have this game for free....I am FRUSTRATED what more those who bought this game and paid the whole price????

EA is still silent when are they going to patch this....perhaps they are looking for enough sales b4 doing it or else they will ignore?? IDK.... I am really tempted to curse this product.
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:04 PM   #220
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Its not like they don't have talented AI programmer at EA. My friend worked on the FIFA AI this year and from what everyone is saying, its very very good.

The game has been tweaked into a arcade game with some real puck physics. The CPU AI is definitely faster, has eyes behind the head (for passing), outstanding toe dragging stick abilities, can be lay flat on the ice, stand-up and still remain in possession of the puck. It will double/triple team and suck you to the board while your teammates are watching the show.

None of this is new to the NHL Series. It just got worse over the years. For an AI that was build from ground up, it has a lot of the same behavior has previous installment. So what the point of redoing the A.I, if you are going to rebuild it the same ?

I tried be a pro goalie and I was sitting 1 hour in the menu simming games because they don't send you back to CHL/AHL. Worst than that, I was put on the ice in 5 games (a period) while it was simming. All the stats that was on my career weren't even mine. I gained point to spend for simming in the menu. Its absolutely garbage.

There is so many thing to fix in the core gameplay.
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:04 PM   #221
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If you're a fan of Hockey or the NHL, buy this game. Don't punish yourself because the things that were left out. The gameplay is incredible, prb would have game of the year all of the Modes were put in. Buy the game, play it for a few months and then trade it in. Worth trying just for the gameplay.
It is funny to me that I see this post right after jyoung posts several videos detailing the horrid gameplay that has plagued this series for years now.

Keep up the work, jyoung. My hopes were that with the new media features of next gen consoles that I could finally give greater detailed explanations to EA about what is wrong with their series. They were proactive in making such a shell of a game that I wasn't given that opportunity as I saw no reason to justify a $60 purchase for this.
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Old 09-11-2014, 03:13 PM   #222
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Sure, the AI is going to break down from time to time. This is nothing new. Happens in every sports game.
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Anybody afraid that the NHL series could become what the NBA Live series became when it moved to at the time next gen (X360/PS3), Instead now NHL moving to current next gen (X1/PS4)?
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I even have all of my defensive lines set to "collapsing," and I still notice that my AI player's coverage of the slot and the crease is awful.

Something has definitely changed in the PS4 defensive AI, because "collapsing" defense still works like it should on Xbox 360.
I brought this up in my impressions and mentioned that almost every goal against me was a result of the backside defender not doing anything correctly while I used the strongside person to attack or cover the puck carrier.

Defensive settings only marginally made a difference.

And some of it is a result of their removing the player "tie-ups" in front of the net. But thank god they did that because that was the most ridiculous excuse of a feature ever. It was just suction and was unrealistic. In real life it would be called holding or interference if it occurred anyway.

But rather than work with it or improve it they just canned it and didn't replace it with anyway to defend the net front. Wonderful!

What needs to happen is the weakside defender would attempt to gain positioning and keep the attacking player on the outside. Keeping themselves between the puck and the attacking player is the first rule of that positioning right there.

Secondly, there needs to be some sort of a stick tie-up or countermeasure in place to prevent these things. In real life, as a defender, my job would be to keep their stick pinned to the ice or even lift it. They teach you not to play the puck around the net, but to play the stick and tie-up the man. If your opponent can't get his stick on the puck then he isn't likely to score there.

EA is clueless about all of this apparently and this year is exceptionally horrible because you cannot rely on the AI to do its job behind you as you are out trying to defend or recapture the puck. Furthering frustrations is the fact that you cannot reverse the roles because the AI would never be aggressive on itself and attempt to regain possession for you while you are busy playing proper net front position and defending that pass across that is an easy goal in this game.

Just a mess!
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