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[dubcity]

Also, as awesome as the gameplay is this year, I kind of wish adjusting tactics and strategy was a little more straight forward in the middle of matches. In the pre-match gameplan menu there is a "simple setting" option for tactics, which lets you choose from like 10 tactics (long ball, all out defense, etc), but you can't change to one of those in mid match.

Instead we have to manually change offense style + build up + offense area etc in the gameplan menu. They could at least give us an attack level setting like in FIFA, and previous PES games.

[xicpanad]

Quote: Originally Posted by dubcity

Also, as awesome as the gameplay is this year, I kind of wish adjusting tactics and strategy was a little more straight forward in the middle of matches. In the pre-match gameplan menu there is a "simple setting" option for tactics, which lets you choose from like 10 tactics (long ball, all out defense, etc), but you can't change to one of those in mid match. Instead we have to manually change offense style + build up + offense area etc in the gameplan menu. They could at least give us an attack level setting like in FIFA, and previous PES games.

Yep, maybe because they don´t even have this feature at all in the game. Yesterday playing against Norway, started loosing but soon managed to get 2 goals (is it me or manual shooting is somehow to easy?). Thing is, Norway kept the possession style through all the match. Loosing and keeping possession like defending the result is extremely unrealistic and even frustrating.

I know we have to mess with the team´s tactics in edit mode, to make them more realistic, but do I really care? No. Frankly, the game should have been released with all tactics corrected. I don´t think I´ll even bother correcting them because:
1 - there´s always the risk of some patch erasing all my work.
2 - CPU doesn´t seem to change tactics acording to the situation. they might play Attacking or defensive, but there´s no space for a third tactic, like really pushing up looking for the equalizer in the last minutes of a match.

[BL8001]

As far as strategy goes, when I first checked mine, fluid formation was off.

So after turning it on and seeing how much better my team played...

Is it default off for all CPU teams? If that is the case it would explain the CPU never shifting tactics.

At the same time, I have seen the CPU play keep away with the ball when they have the lead. So there is some logic in place.

I do completely agree with dubcity, where are the simple changes?

When the CPU was playing keep away I wanted to change my tactics to "go get the damn ball" I saw no way to instruct this. It was already set to pressure...

One other thing, when I have the ball the cpu man marks everyone very closely, if I pass it to another player a cpu defender is on me instantly.

When the CPU has the ball my players are marking them very loosely, like 4-5 feet away from everyone if not 10 feet away.

The close proximity for the CPU defending makes it much easier for them to win tackles.

Meanwhile when I am stood farther away I have to select that player and then manually move him closer to the ball handler.

FIFA has this issue too and I hate this "one way it works for the cpu one way it works for the human" crap, but I feel like in the PES tactics I may be able to fix this.

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by BL8001

As far as strategy goes, when I first checked mine, fluid formation was off. So after turning it on and seeing how much better my team played... Is it default off for all CPU teams? If that is the case it would explain the CPU never shifting tactics. At the same time, I have seen the CPU play keep away with the ball when they have the lead. So there is some logic in place. I do completely agree with dubcity, where are the simple changes? When the CPU was playing keep away I wanted to change my tactics to "go get the damn ball" I saw no way to instruct this. It was already set to pressure... One other thing, when I have the ball the cpu man marks everyone very closely, if I pass it to another player a cpu defender is on me instantly. When the CPU has the ball my players are marking them very loosely, like 4-5 feet away from everyone if not 10 feet away. The close proximity for the CPU defending makes it much easier for them to win tackles. Meanwhile when I am stood farther away I have to select that player and then manually move him closer to the ball handler. FIFA has this issue too and I hate this "one way it works for the cpu one way it works for the human" crap, but I feel like in the PES tactics I may be able to fix this.

I believe it is default off for CPU teams but I have to check. I does stink that you can't choose to start pressing a team on the fly weird that they had it other games for there series but took it out here. You can only, from my knowledge, play the offside trap on the fly and adjust your D-Line to press high or drop deep by using the D-Pad.

Any who, I find fluid formation to be a great feature that lets the teams play even closer to their real life counterpart. However I do just feel like Konami dropped the ball a little on game logic which is something they did really well in the past iterations. Example would be when you are down 3-1 and I score that goal to bring me 1 goal down. I don't want to see my player celebrating, he needs to be grabbing the ball out of the net and returning it to the middle of the pitch. Also only utilizing two formation types is a miss, especially when they should have had formations for every type of scenario like they did in the past. One for when the game is tied, in the lead, or behind.

Still with all of its problems it is still a great game, probably one of most enjoyable footy games from a gameplay standpoint but I really hope they get some one these annoyances fixed soon.

[BL8001]

Ok I think I figured out what made the cpu pressure me so early.

Frontline Pressure setting. Forechecking sort of.

Just read about it today and need to check Ludogorets to see if it is on for them.

[xicpanad]

Quote: Originally Posted by BL8001

Ok I think I figured out what made the cpu pressure me so early. Frontline Pressure setting. Forechecking sort of. Just read about it today and need to check Ludogorets to see if it is on for them.

You should check their positioning while defending also. If you choose to press high but then position your players deep in the defensive tactic, they will always wait for the CPU. I find the only way to play against deep possession teams is making a defensive tactic with my players higher in the pitch, almost with no diference between attacking and defensive position. This way, if they loose the ball, they will start defending immediatly in the opponent´s half.

[BL8001]

Thanks.

Frontline pressure was on for them.

Strangely fluid formation was off. I went through the prem and la liga and fluid formation was on for every team I checked.

[Cavani161]

Doing a Master League with Atletico Madrid, just seeing how I can build this team up even more. I got Juan Mata, paid a hefty price for him while also giving away Gabi. Running a 4-2-3-1 with Mata plugged in the middle at AMF and on his debut right now he has 2 goals. He's setting up everyone with his vision and passing. I had a chance to get Reus but I opted for Mata due to his creativity. I love it in this game where you can put certain players on teams and see a transformation happen.