NBA Live 15 Currently on Sale For $9 On Xbox Store, Likely Headed to EA Access Soon

[zrohman]

Quote: Originally Posted by thedream2k13

So much salt lol 2k gameplay this year is best in bball game history. Live is decent but way behind in gameplay , features etc

It's real. 2k players play super slow and unrealistic. Live has general player movement . 2k is totally animation driven with no control to the user. You feel like you have no control and the defense has players on skates.


2k would have to completely reinvent their engine in order to fix their issues. Instead they will just dress it up and instead of fixing issues the right way they will block cheese by taking even more options away from the user.

Live is on the ground but they have a way better gameplay foundation in my opinion. The problem of mid range jumpers not going in or other small issues can be tweaked. Lives gameplay issues just need tweaking. Once tweaked it will definitely play better than 2k. 2k cannot imperative gameplay much with the foundation they layed.

With how unbalanced Live is 2k gameplay is definitely better right now. No question. But the Live issues can be tweaked. Again it's not foundational. 2k being driven by animations, and feeling chained down when you play, that'd just how it plays. Foundational issues.

Features were a million times better in 2k this year, but with the regression bug that made dynasty unplayable. With the lag it makes online unplayable. So despite what 2k fanboys say it's closer than you think.

Live is one patch away from tying or beating 2k in gameplay. And one year away from getting close with features

[OnQore]

Quote: Originally Posted by zrohman

It's real. 2k players play super slow and unrealistic. Live has general player movement . 2k is totally animation driven with no control to the user. You feel like you have no control and the defense has players on skates. 2k would have to completely reinvent their engine in order to fix their issues. Instead they will just dress it up and instead of fixing issues the right way they will block cheese by taking even more options away from the user. Live is on the ground but they have a way better gameplay foundation in my opinion. The problem of mid range jumpers not going in or other small issues can be tweaked. Lives gameplay issues just need tweaking. Once tweaked it will definitely play better than 2k. 2k cannot imperative gameplay much with the foundation they layed. With how unbalanced Live is 2k gameplay is definitely better right now. No question. But the Live issues can be tweaked. Again it's not foundational. 2k being driven by animations, and feeling chained down when you play, that'd just how it plays. Foundational issues. Features were a million times better in 2k this year, but with the regression bug that made dynasty unplayable. With the lag it makes online unplayable. So despite what 2k fanboys say it's closer than you think. Live is one patch away from tying or beating 2k in gameplay. And one year away from getting close with features

All of this stated above is truth beyond the lines. I've thoroughly been enjoying every aspect of how Live 15 plays with my controller to its gameplay. It's simple enough to control any player to do what you (the user) wants to do with them. While still looking legitimately realistic to the game of basketball, I do believe the games paint physics are really the future of the overall game. Hopefully the development team can stretch those physics to all aspects & ranges of the gameplay. Then if that comes to light with Live 16 the NBA Live series will ultimately be the first true next gen basketball game overall!


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[The 24th Letter]

Always love when Live's issues are glossed over with the same cliche "great foundation!", "Just a few fixes away!" "real time physics!" stuff we've been hearing going on 5 years years now. TBH, I personally think Live '16 will be solid, but I thought the same about Live '11. They're going to have to show me. A animation where a player slips after a made basket and some limb interaction isn't selling me on a physics revolution. It literally effects nothing between the lines.



If you enjoy Live, even enjoy it more than 2k, that's fine...it's all preference....but NBA Lives issues definitely go far beyond shooting %'s and lack of features. Making a laundry list of 2k's issues and ignoring Live's don't change that, or help anyone really. Just one example: Things like the 15-20 blocks you see during 12 minute quarters (if that) because there aren't suitable defensive animations are one of the many band aids that we will have to see if the Live team can peel off.

[zrohman]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Always love when Live's issues are glossed over with the same cliche "great foundation!", "Just a few fixes away!" "real time physics!" stuff we've been hearing going on 5 years years now. TBH, I personally think Live '16 will be solid, but I thought the same about Live '11. They're going to have to show me. A animation where a player slips after a made basket and some limb interaction isn't selling me on a physics revolution. It literally effects nothing between the lines. If you enjoy Live, even enjoy it more than 2k, that's fine...it's all preference....but NBA Lives issues definitely go far beyond shooting %'s and lack of features. Making a laundry list of 2k's issues and ignoring Live's don't change that, or help anyone really. Just one example: Things like the 15-20 blocks you see during 12 minute quarters (if that) because there aren't suitable defensive animations are one of the many band aids that we will have to see if the Live team can peel off.

That's real too. I prefer it for many of the reasons above. However your right. There are still more issues than percentages to fix. You've got late game a.i, and some other issues. I definitely don't see them as foundational but there are still plenty of issues. And the Live team has been pretty terrible overall. Poor patching, poor communication with the community. Realistically I don't know what to expect. I'm sure they will do a good job and probably give us a game with better gameplay, and sliders, but still behind 2k with modes. Probably will give us what this game should have been. They always have a tendency to be behind on where they should be

[The 24th Letter]

Quote: Originally Posted by zrohman

That's real too. I prefer it for many of the reasons above. However your right. There are still more issues than percentages to fix. You've got late game a.i, and some other issues. I definitely don't see them as foundational but there are still plenty of issues. And the Live team has been pretty terrible overall. Poor patching, poor communication with the community. Realistically I don't know what to expect. I'm sure they will do a good job and probably give us a game with better gameplay, and sliders, but still behind 2k with modes. Probably will give us what this game should have been. They always have a tendency to be behind on where they should be

We will see man.

I don't have an allegiance to ether game/company either way....they don't pay me enough to lol.....but I am rooting for Live to being their A game next year.....for the sake of competition. We all win at the end of the day of they do

[TMalone2010]

If it goes on sale on Psn I might get it just to have options lol

[thatruth2015]

Fyi I got live on psn for 14.99 about 3 weeks ago. I think it was an EA sale. I had been playing and buying 2k since 2k10 maybe earlier. The only game I ever buy.are nba games since Nintendo fact...actually Atari days. Nba2k15 took a giant step back post it's patch 3. 2k.gameplay is complete garbage now, especially online. Nba live15...despite terrible features, menus, substitutions, its real SIM experience...you're in control. Win, lose, you know you did all you could and it was you....in 2k win or lose there are 20 canimations and 20 input lag issues where I feel cheated and frustrated at illogical sequences. I wish I could pre_order nbalive 16 today, since nba2k15 is so disrespectful to fixing gameplay

[The 24th Letter]

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