Peter Moore Confirms on YouTube Stream That EA Still Exclusive With NFL

[GiantBlue76]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cardot

I understand EA's business strategy...but for the actual developers, I wonder if they secretly wish the license wasn't exclusive?? Just from a competitive standpoint.

If you read the Pecover lawsuit documents, you will see some emails that were sent by Tiburon employees to execs asking that they NOT renew in 2009. Some employees felt that they were at their best in a competitive market and they also didn't care for a lot of the negativity related to the exclusive license. I guess it would depend on who you asked there. Some people were probably indifferent, others felt the product was better when the market was competitive. Either way it doesn't matter. Everyone had to know that once this was secured EA would NEVER relinquish this. People need to face the fact that there will never, ever be another NFL game other than Madden again. The NFL loves this relationship and so does the NFLPA.

[Cardot]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

WFrom a personal view, I'd hate if my network was the only network on TV but from a professional standpoint....I'd love it.

Right....that is what I meant (just poorly worded). The job security is nice. But at least part of them must wish they had the chance to go toe to toe with a competitor, and really put their work to the test.

[PVarck31]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jet Sufferer

I take the opposite approach, EVERYONE should be mad that we can only get one official NFL football game, especially one that has languished in sub-mediocrity for my tastes since the start of the 360 generation. Imagine a world where NBA basketball fans were forced to play 11 years of iterations of the current NBA Live franchise and NBA 2K games were only a fantasy. That's a pretty horrible world in my book, and sim football gamers have been living in that nightmare for over a decade. No one ever thought that the USSR would fall, and not everyone accepted it, perhaps the new Montana game will strike a chord with gamers and eventually lead to getting itself the NFL license. I can always hope that the license will be open again, if history shows us anything, it's that anything can happen.

I'm not saying you should be happy with exclusivity. I'm just saying people should know by now that it's not gonna change. The NFL will give EA the chance to retain it every time its up and they will. This is why I say nothing will change and we shouldn't be surprised by it.

In my opinion, the exclusive deal will remain in place until console gaming is no longer.

Every year someone comes here or there and says another NFL game is coming and people get so excited, only to be let down every year. So I choose to no longer believe anything will change.

[SolidSquid]

Quote: Originally Posted by GiantBlue76

If you read the Pecover lawsuit documents, you will see some emails that were sent by Tiburon employees to execs asking that they NOT renew in 2009. Some employees felt that they were at their best in a competitive market and they also didn't care for a lot of the negativity related to the exclusive license. I guess it would depend on who you asked there. Some people were probably indifferent, others felt the product was better when the market was competitive. Either way it doesn't matter. Everyone had to know that once this was secured EA would NEVER relinquish this. People need to face the fact that there will never, ever be another NFL game other than Madden again. The NFL loves this relationship and so does the NFLPA.

This kinda cements my idea that it's the suits not the devs who develop madden. Sure the devs make the game but it's the suits that say don't innovate and spend the least amount of resources possible to keep the profit margin wide. Personally and professionally I have pride in my work and am competitive but like someone above said the job security must be nice. Imagine what happened to the live team after 2k dethroned them leading up to the eventual cancellation of NBA Elite.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

This kinda cements my idea that it's the suits not the devs who develop madden. Sure the devs make the game but it's the suits that say don't innovate and spend the least amount of resources possible to keep the profit margin wide. Personally and professionally I have pride in my work and am competitive but like someone above said the job security must be nice. Imagine what happened to the live team after 2k dethroned them leading up to the eventual cancellation of NBA Elite.

I believe it's a combination of both. While the suits probably do dictate what does on into the game, the devs design and implement it in ways that aren't realistic or favor realism. The suits can't be blamed for that.

Now this team might be trying to right all those wrongs, and it will take awhile to unravel some of the mess, so we'll see how it turns out.

[SolidSquid]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

I believe it's a combination of both. While the suits probably do dictate what does on into the game, the devs design and implement it in ways that aren't realistic or favor realism. The suits can't be blamed for that. Now this team might be trying to right all those wrongs, and it will take awhile to unravel some of the mess, so we'll see how it turns out.

That's a fair point. The problem I see if the dev team being changed before they get a chance to fix everything. I honestly thought Ian was gonna be the guy to bring the sim crowd what we wanted but was shown the door too soon.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by SolidSquid

That's a fair point. The problem I see if the dev team being changed before they get a chance to fix everything. I honestly thought Ian was gonna be the guy to bring the sim crowd what we wanted but was shown the door too soon.

Ian left on his own accord.

There is a lot of turnover in the software business.

[SageInfinite]

I've never personally been mad at this exclusive deal, yeah it sucks to not have options, but if the game was so good I didn't need any I wouldn't care.

I'm more upset at EA and Tiburon for dragging its feet with the series. I couldn't care less about 2k football at this point. I just want Tiburon to make me forget 2k football ever existed. They haven't come close to doing that yet.