PES 2016 Demo Available Now on Xbox One and PlayStation 4

[ty5oke]

I've enjoyed the demo so far. Playing as France against Brazil on SS for all my games. I've seen a bunch of organic goals and the pace/feel of the game has been good. The sliding of defenders is still a sore spot for me.


Not many fouls in my game like others. Seems like you still can't injure guys inside a game? I've been able to see a good amount be sent off after my sinister slide tackle but they always come back.

[LingeringRegime]

If people are having too much ease passing ball turn everything to manual. Makes everything more challenging. My current set up is (Superstar, -1 Speed, Manual Shooting, Unassisted Passing)

My only other complaint with the game other than the lack of fouls is the button press power bar. Last year a light touch of the pass button when give you a light touch in space. This year it seems you have to press the button harder for a light touch on the ball. It doesn't feel as intuitive to me.

[Money99]

Can anyone help me locate where in the control settings I can turn off the powerbar so it's all attribute based?

Thanks!

[gomito#10]

awesome game!

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by Money99

Can anyone help me locate where in the control settings I can turn off the powerbar so it's all attribute based? Thanks!

Not sure if you can play with the powerbar off but manual shooting is probably the closet you can get.

[p_rushing]

I've played a few games and it is ok. The fluid formations do help get back on defense unless it is a quick turnover. I had 1 goal scored on a quick turnover and a through ball (I swear he was offside though).

The fouls are killing me though. I've had defenders slide far away and not picking up any fouls. Around the box is hard to play the ball because nothing is called. I think I've been called for 1 foul and I mugged the guy. It seems to me that if you aren't sliding, the fouls aren't called at all.

[roolz]

I think there are a couple of problems with fouls in this game;

1 - The game itself has a lenient ref, now whether that is because the ref in the demo is coded that way idk - but in old PES games you would have nicer refs and stricter refs to put it simply.

2 - Playstyle, now im not saying that you will get 3/4+ fouls per game, but you can draw fouls in PES... The key word there being 'draw'.

Now ive seen various fouls in the game committed by the AI, slide tackles, shoves, aerial fouls, late clips etc. The reason I think im seeing them and others who see them are because of playstyle, this isnt a negative and isnt a statement that the game is working 100% as I do think its too lenient, however if you are going to play ping pong, or try to dribble into dead ends etc, fouls wont get called as much.

Try being more patient, not pinging a ball first time, but get it under and have a look up, play a diagonal, feed the channel, overlap, come short etc... the more you have possession (as IRL) at your feet, the more chance a challenge is going to come in and if you get your body right, fouls will get called.

Case in point my last game, 2 fouls, totally different scenarios. First one, edge of their box right hand side, i roll the ball into Moratas feet, he has Dante on his back, I could easily dump it first time back to Lichsteiner who is covered but would get the ball, however I take a quick turn to get to the byline and would you believe it... Dante dangles a foot and over I go..foul.

2nd, im in my own half.. Pirlo looking to sew a needle, I go short to Vidal into his feet and as he gets it, a quick bump into his back from Lahm and Vidal goes down.. foul.

Its not perfect and I know everyone plays the game differently, but its there, yes a tweak will help it, but we dont want the flow from the game to die, that will kill it as remember we are taking a 90 minute game and condensing it into 10 or 15 mins.... Madden, NHL, MLB etc get more realistic stats as people play games with more realistic times.

Imagine doing 2 minute quarters on Madden, would you want realistic foul numbers on that? Probably not, as you would be sat there watching yellow flags drop near on all game, which would ruin it.

Football games cant work under 90 minute realistic time frames, they never have and probably never will (nor will that be wanted in the majority). So we have to condense the action you get in a 90min game and try to bring that over realistically as possible to 10mins....

The Premier League which many will use as a benchmark has what circa 22 fouls per game across 90 mins. Imagine the game stopping 22 times when playing PES or FIFA for fouls, would that be fun? Would you then get the right number of 'scoring' situations from that... say you have 11 fouls on the edge of the box, 11 goalscoring free kick chances?

It has to be dialled back a touch, maybe its a bit too far right now, but 2/3 fouls per side would be a decent indication for me that the refs are on point.

Penalties... 83 last year in the Premier League, that includes handballs which we dont have in computer games right now (as far as im aware). Again we need more in PES, but too many? 1 per game... would be too much, Man City had 8 last year, Tottenham gave away 7.... if you had those statistics, at best you get 1 every 4+ games, whilst conceding one every 5 (and a bit) games.

People beratting the fact they dont get them in 2/3 games on the demo are expecting too much and if you played Master League or any other offline mode, would getting 1 a game or giving one up each game be fun? Games would come down to variables that dont actually happen in real football and again we are looking at a condense image of the game in PES/FIFA.

Its a long piece of drivel ive written and im supportive of PES being tweaked, but keep an open mind to things, have a look at how you play next time because if you are playing ping pong football... fouls wouldnt really happen in real life against that, unless someone was out to pinder you. Barcelona are everyones favourite team right now, watch them, watch Iniesta etc, yes there are 1 touch moves... but when they get the ball, its not a case of instantly shifting it on, its a case of being confident and drawing a foul and being aware of how having possession at feet is a benefit to you.

[p_rushing]

yeah definitely think the short game time is effecting my play style, having to press forward and push the attack faster ... even as Brazil at -1 game speed, I feel like I need to press against 1 of the 2 lower ranked teams