An In-Depth Look at the Changes to the NBA 2K16 Ratings System

[JKSportsGamer1984]

I love this change & it's long overdue. Kudos to 2K!

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by DEEBOFIOUS

Finally 2K thinks about ratings comparisons that involve current and past players. This is good, but how can you start with Dennis Rodman as a rebounding example when Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain are in the game? These are the 1st 2 players that should receive 99 offensive/defensive rebounding ratings. The Worm was great but NOT 99 great. 95 yes but NOT 99.

As mentioned previously, I think there's a lot of room for debate there. Chamberlain and Russell played at a time where there were, at its peak, close to 150 rebounds to be had each game. Rodman's era provided around 84. His rebounding percentages far exceed both Chamberlain and Russell across the board. That is to say, if Rodman had played in their era, there's a good bet he would have averaged more than 27 rebounds a night.

[eko718]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trackball

...Did he just call Dennis Rodman the best offensive rebounder of all time? Uh, don't get me wrong, he's top five, but I still think Moses Ma-- Wait, this is the former bedwardsroy19?...Well, shoot, now I don't know WHAT to think. Well, whatever. Here's to hoping that improving your free throws in MyCareer doesn't automatically make you a better three-point shooter. Obviously looking forward to that news.

Seems more like he's saying Dennis Rodman had the highest single season number for offensive rebounding since they started recording stats in 1973 and that is the standard by which Offensive Rebounding in this game is measured. Probably the best metric to use would be a per 48 minute model or Offensive Rebounding %(which accounts for possessions while on the floor), in which either case, the all-time highest number for that is Dennis Rodman in 1994-1995.

Moses Malone may have been a more consistently high O Rebounder year after year, and that's fine. His ratings however, will likely(or should) reflect his stats for the particular season in which he is represented in the game, same for Rodman. So the 84-85 Moses Malone is probably the one we'll see, and that year he had one of the lower rebounding rates of his career. And just because Rodmans' 1994-1995 year is the standard, doesn't mean every year Rodman should have a 99 for Offensive Rebounding if his stats that year don't permit.

[eko718]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goffs

So this is geared toward online play judging from the YouTube comment. What about offline players? Will player tendencies be touched so the cpu players act like their real life counterparts?

Until they really dig in to tendencies, the ratings mean very little, at least offline like you pointed out. Ratings reflect ability, Tendencies drive AI behavior. I hope this is a part of the overhaul.

[thedream2k16]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

As mentioned previously, I think there's a lot of room for debate there. Chamberlain and Russell played at a time where there were, at its peak, close to 150 rebounds to be had each game. Rodman's era provided around 84. His rebounding percentages far exceed both Chamberlain and Russell across the board. That is to say, if Rodman had played in their era, there's a good bet he would have averaged more than 27 rebounds a night.

no debate needed unless you want to for fun. Rodmans advanced stats wee recorded and the other two werent.

[thedream2k16]

Quote: Originally Posted by Goffs

So this is geared toward online play judging from the YouTube comment. What about offline players? Will player tendencies be touched so the cpu players act like their real life counterparts?

This is about all ratings. There are many guys posting offline myleague franchises on youtube. Its not specific to one mode. These ratings changes will before offline and online same as its always been.

[PippenAintEasy]

Quote: Originally Posted by DEEBOFIOUS

Finally 2K thinks about ratings comparisons that involve current and past players. This is good, but how can you start with Dennis Rodman as a rebounding example when Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain are in the game? These are the 1st 2 players that should receive 99 offensive/defensive rebounding ratings. The Worm was great but NOT 99 great. 95 yes but NOT 99.

You're kidding right? Rodman grabbed 19 rebounds a game at a height of barely over 6'6.

When Wilt grabbed 27 a game, each team missed 65 shots a game on average, that's 130 possible rebounding opportunities per game.

When Rodman grabbed 19 a game, each team missed 46 shots a game, allowing 92 possible rebounding opportunities per game.

So Wilt grabbed 27/130 rebounds a game (20.7% of available rebounds) and Rodman grabbed 19/92 per game (20.6% of available rebounds). Now consider the fact that Wilt played 47 mpg to Rodman's 40 mpg, and Rodman's rebound rate goes up to grabbing an absurd 26.2% of rebounds he was on the floor for.

TL;DR: You're wrong.

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by thedream2k16

no debate needed unless you want to for fun. Rodmans advanced stats wee recorded and the other two werent.

No worries. Just for the sake of knowledge, many advanced rebounding statistics can be recorded after an event has occurred, since they're mostly calculations involving rebounds, team rebounds, and minutes - all statistics that existed during Russell and Chamberlain's era. Of those advanced statistics, Rodman emerges as the frontrunner by a healthy margin in each category. Here is a link with more detail: http://skepticalsports.com/tag/wilt-chamberlain/