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Old 08-26-2015, 12:36 PM   #41
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Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

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Sorry man, as someone who works for a software company and deals with release cycles, there is noway they could redo the entire code in a year. The bugs we all come across are a direct result of the development cycle being so short.
Yup. You have to fix as you go. Throwing out the code and starting over is more expensive than fixing what already exists, and rewriting the code doesn't guarantee that the new code doesn't have bugs as well.

Bugs are the nature of software development and, combined with the extremely aggressive deadlines across the entirety of the AAA video game industry, an unfortunate fact of life.

Tiburon will release a patch soon enough.
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Old 08-26-2015, 12:37 PM   #42
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Thanks for the heads up, but I'll probably start my CFM anyway.

One, I don't have that much extra time on my hands so I don't think I'll make it through a full season before the patch comes out. That solves the draft problem.

Two, I make the players work very hard for even the slightest bit of yards, so I highly doubt that ANYONE (Player or CPU) will EVER complete any drive goals lmao!! That solves the problem with confidence shooting through the roof during games.

Are there any other bugs that I might not be aware of yet?
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Sorry man, as someone who works for a software company and deals with release cycles, there is noway they could redo the entire code in a year. The bugs we all come across are a direct result of the development cycle being so short. The only games that are comparable are other games that are released yearly, like nba2k,mlb the show,nhl and all of these games have had major bugs on release. Would you want all of those games to scratch their code and start over? Probably not, Madden, for better or worse is a victim of their own dev cycle.
I can only speak for NBA2k on that list, but that game has not nearly been as bug ridden as Madden has in recent years. It's main issues have been server access and reliability for online play. That's not about the code, it's about the cloud based infrastructure.

And as far as franchise modes go, you can't even talk about Madden and The Show or NBA2k in the same paragraph, let alone the same sentence.

Madden just can't hide behind the short development cycle. It's not as if the cycle is a new phenomenon - they've been at this a long time. If you do project management and code building right, you build on layers year by year and make expansions and improvements off a solid foundation. Madden, like everyone else, put in a new foundation with the new consoles. And yet it has had more problems, false starts and steps backward.

I really think it's the EA culture that is not designer friendly, leaving the design and engineering side unable to do stable planning, investment and infrastructure building because they are subject to the whims of the bean counters and marketing suits year on year.

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Yea thank god can super sim get dealt with too. I'd like to see realistic time of possession also
The qb carries Ryan tannehill in my dolphins cfm week 9

Through 8 games tannehill has 826yards passing 3 td 2 int and he has 113 carries SMH
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Re: Kolbe says to WAIT to start your CFM

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Thanks for the heads up, but I'll probably start my CFM anyway.

One, I don't have that much extra time on my hands so I don't think I'll make it through a full season before the patch comes out. That solves the draft problem.

Two, I make the players work very hard for even the slightest bit of yards, so I highly doubt that ANYONE (Player or CPU) will EVER complete any drive goals lmao!! That solves the problem with confidence shooting through the roof during games.

Are there any other bugs that I might not be aware of yet?
The drive goals are very attainable especially for the defense. I played a preseason game last night with Pit (me) vs. Jags. And some of the goals were get a solo tackle with player X and keep the Jags out of the red zone. And on offense the goals were a little harder to complete but they were still easy like catch a touchdown with Antonio Brown or get 30 yards rushing with Williams or complete a reception to Le'veon Bell.
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Define "major bugs" because I've bought MLB The Show and NBA2K games for the last 3 years within 48 hours of their releases and never once couldn't play a mostly bug-free franchise mode.
I would say the Wrigley boundary bug is major. Before that runs being counted after the 3rd out was recorded. Before that the white screen freeze issue. These are just a few. I love mlb but to say it's been without major bugs is disingenuous.

And mlb has had more than its share of progression/ regression issues. Major Free agents never being signed. Etc.
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This just isn't any mode this has kinda been the backbone off he game for over a decade and a half. It is very unacceptable for a sports game in the 2010s be released without the ability to play a functional franchise mode. This is the first time I can remember them saying to delay starting the mode. There have been events in the past that had freezing issues that required restarts if you came upon them, but nothing like this in which a dev guy is telling you not to start a mode. Plain and simple, there is no excuse for this not to be discovered, especially since it was discovered rather easily by many in the first 10 hours of playing the game.
I'd argue that online and MUT have been more important modes in this game for the past 5 plus years.
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I would say the Wrigley boundary bug is major. Before that runs being counted after the 3rd out was recorded. Before that the white screen freeze issue. These are just a few. I love mlb but to say it's been without major bugs is disingenuous.

And mlb even has had more than its share of progression/ regression issues. Major Free agents never being signed. Etc.
**** NBA2k15 barely had fouls called at release (even with sliders at 100) and it took X1 owners almost three months before it was patched.

I love the NBA2k series but its generally buggy as hell on release.
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