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Nobody is arguing that MJ>Curry overall but this season is probably the most dominant season we ever saw. A singular season compared to another singular season. Which was proven to you in the other thread...or this one...who knows. Anyway, Curry shoots better from every single spot better than MJ and averages better number per 100 possession than MJ, both simple and advanced stats. IIRC MJ only beats him in steals and blocks and is better defender. But you cannot for the love of God immediately refuse the thought of Curry being on par with MJ during a singular season. Not even arguing multiple seasons - a singular season.

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Quote: Originally Posted by richard2001

Are you talking about Curry being GOAT shooter, or GOAT overall?

Shooter. He's a wee-bit more than a spot-up shooter though, he is the best scoring shooter we have ever seen, to the point that he is a more efficient scorer than Michael Jordan was. These are tangible measurements. Curry is going to hit 350 threes this year and Jordan hit 581 in his entire damn career. That is a tangible measurement.

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Also, not everybody gets eclipsed. As a scorer, I don't think Jordan will be eclipsed.

Sure, Jordan was better with his back to the basket than Curry is, and was certainly the better athlete/finisher. But he wasn't crossing over and pulling from 25 with a hand in his face either. The kicker is one of those situations is worth more points than the other. Curry can be a "better scorer" without learning the same "scoring" moves Jordan had to learn.

Jordan's best scoring season: 61 TS% on 34 USG% (1990)
Curry right now: 69 TS% on 33 USG%

Curry leads the league in TS% and is 2nd in USG rate.

If the season ended today his TS% would be the 10th best mark in NBA history. On a league leading Usage rate. THAT IS UNHEARD OF.

In other words it's something Jordan never did. Jordan lead the league in USG rate EIGHT times, but he was top 10 in TS% only once. That's top-10 in a season, NOT on the all-time list.

Curry is doing something that even Jordan never could.... which means we get to have these conversations that make Jordan-philes ever uncomfortable.

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As a point forward, I don't see LeBron being eclipsed.

They said we'd never see another Magic Johnson or Larry Bird. Yet here we are in 2016 and LeBron is a 4-time MVP and Durant a 4-time scoring champ. What makes Jordan or any other player so special that they'll never be eclipsed? Fuzzies?

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It's ridiculous to say Curry could surpass Jordan, off the back of one elite season.

It's on the back of one season that is superior to any that Jordan ever had, which is quite different than what you're inferring.

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Quote: Originally Posted by richard2001

One true MVP season (no way should he have won last year)

Good job rooting yourself out as biased and non-credible. Curry met all the qualifications the media measurably weighs and his only competition was James ****ing Harden. LOL please, please tell us who Curry robbed.

*Crickets*

[richard2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

Shooter. He's a wee-bit more than a spot-up shooter though, he is the best scoring shooter we have ever seen, to the point that he is a more efficient scorer than Michael Jordan was. These are tangible measurements. Curry is going to hit 350 threes this year and Jordan hit 581 in his entire damn career. That is a tangible measurement. Sure, Jordan was better with his back to the basket than Curry is, and was certainly the better athlete/finisher. But he wasn't crossing over and pulling from 25 with a hand in his face either. The kicker is one of those situations is worth more points than the other. Curry can be a "better scorer" without learning the same "scoring" moves Jordan had to learn. Jordan's best scoring season: 61 TS% on 34 USG% (1990) Curry right now: 69 TS% on 33 USG% Curry leads the league in TS% and is 2nd in USG rate. If the season ended today his TS% would be the 10th best mark in NBA history. On a league leading Usage rate. THAT IS UNHEARD OF. They said we'd never see another Magic Johnson or Larry Bird. Yet here we are in 2016 and LeBron is a 4-time MVP and Durant a 4-time scoring champ. What makes Jordan or any other player so special that they'll never be eclipsed? Fuzzies? It's on the back of one season that is superior to any that Jordan ever had, which is quite different than what you're inferring.

This season is better than any Jordan ever had? I don't care about all your advanced metrics, Jordan is the greatest scorer of all time. He'd do even better in today's guard oriented league.

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[richard2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

Good job rooting yourself out as biased and non-credible. Curry met all the qualifications the media weighs and his only competition was James ****ing Harden. LOL please tell us who your clear MVP was that Curry robbed. *Crickets*

James Harden. It's most valuable player. Hell, LeBron was more valuable to the cavs last year than Curry was to the warriors. It's not really MVP, it's more "who the media views as the best". If it were really most valuable, LeBron should have won from 2006-2014, and maybe last year.

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Quote: Originally Posted by richard2001

This season is better than any Jordan ever had? I don't care about all your advanced metrics, Jordan is the greatest scorer of all time. He'd do even better in today's guard oriented league.

Well that was certainly informative and full of context. I'm glad we didn't have this talk.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

Well that was certainly informative and full of context. I'm glad we didn't have this talk.

Are you telling me that Steph is a better scorer and MJ, and that today's league isn't guard oriented?

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Quote: Originally Posted by richard2001

James Harden. It's most valuable player. Hell, LeBron was more valuable to the cavs last year than Curry was to the warriors. It's not really MVP, it's more "who the media views as the best". If it were really most valuable, LeBron should have won from 2006-2014, and maybe last year.

Cavs w/ LeBron: 53 wins
Rockets w/ Harden: 54 wins
Warriors w/ Curry: 67 wins

LOL if you really think the Warriors would be doing this without Curry then you haven't been paying attention

The fact that you even drag LeBron's name out means you haven't done your research on the topic and frankly shouldn't be commenting (and again, shows your bias). He missed 13 games last year which is way too many for legitimate consideration.