MLB The Show 16 Video - Franchise Mode

[Cavicchi]

Is Morale in Season mode and can Morale be turned off?

[Lovesports]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bondsfan

I can't help but be frustrated after that video, because afterall, franchise has changed in small increments, and every year it seems like "next year will be the year for franchise mode improvements". This stuff IS improvement, don't get me wrong. But its hardly anything that is going to be a game changer, at least for me. I could care less what David Ortiz's OPS in 1998 was. I just don't care. I know that hardcore stat folks have been clamoring for this level of detail, and I am thrilled for them that they were listened to and they go it. But it does little to impact the feel of a Franchise mode that is going stale, at least for me. Hopefully scouting and training are better, GM mode goals are better than "win the WS in the next two years or your fired", and the morale system is something that actually impacts the game (storylines mentioned in the radio show based on upset players?) rather than something like some tiny drop in rating by -1 or +1 based on the morale of the player. This is the third game on PS4. We're almost 1/2 way through the consoles life cycle before the next consoles launch. What we have right now is an improved PS3 experience when it comes to Franchise mode. The gameplay and graphics have taken a HUGE leap when it comes to the PS4, but Franchise mode just seems to be an afterthought. I would love to see a true next generation experience, akin to OOTP but where you can play the games. I know we're not going to get that in one year, I'm realistic. But I guess I'm just hoping of big changes to Franchise every year only to see small ones that don't really resonate much with me. I totally agree with you though, about rushing to judgement before all the details are released. I'll reserve judgement until Thursday. I'm assuming there's more, because, like you said, how will they fill an hour long stream just by showing stats and the new FA and morale mechanic. There's gotta be more!

This is where most of us will disagree. I actually do care what he hit in 1998, and most baseball fans are very stat driven. Stat tracking has been one of the most requested features for the past 2-3 years, and it's finally in so I'm happy about that. I'm also happy about the morale system. My only complaint is the award/accolade tracking system. I have no idea who won the CY young in 2005 without having to google it, that should not be. I should be able to open a player card and see that he won the gold glove in 2008 and rookie of the year in 2005 etc. other than that, changes are very pleasing

[jb12780]

Quote: Originally Posted by HustlinOwl

Really, we are in what year 8-9 of this games cycle and this is still not being done smh

Probably not as easy as you think it is.

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[Benz87]

Quote: Originally Posted by bronxbombers21325

I really like that. Last year you could throw money at any player you wanted and they were yours.

I actually would encounter the opposite problem. I would throw all the money available in my budget at a player, leading to the interest bar being maxed, only for them sign with a different time for significantly less money. This would happen because the interest for this other team was also maxed, despite their offer not being as much as mine. Realistically the player would have most likely took the huge contract I was offering, but previously the CPU would simply randomly select from any contract that garnered 100% interest and sign with them. Thankfully, it was stated in the video this was tuned so the CPU will weight contracts based on amount and the additional traits added this year.

[tessl]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bondsfan

I can't help but be frustrated after that video, because afterall, franchise has changed in small increments, and every year it seems like "next year will be the year for franchise mode improvements". This stuff IS improvement, don't get me wrong. But its hardly anything that is going to be a game changer, at least for me. I could care less what David Ortiz's OPS in 1998 was. I just don't care. I know that hardcore stat folks have been clamoring for this level of detail, and I am thrilled for them that they were listened to and they go it. But it does little to impact the feel of a Franchise mode that is going stale, at least for me. Hopefully scouting and training are better, GM mode goals are better than "win the WS in the next two years or your fired", and the morale system is something that actually impacts the game (storylines mentioned in the radio show based on upset players?) rather than something like some tiny drop in rating by -1 or +1 based on the morale of the player. This is the third game on PS4. We're almost 1/2 way through the consoles life cycle before the next consoles launch. What we have right now is an improved PS3 experience when it comes to Franchise mode. The gameplay and graphics have taken a HUGE leap when it comes to the PS4, but Franchise mode just seems to be an afterthought. I would love to see a true next generation experience, akin to OOTP but where you can play the games. I know we're not going to get that in one year, I'm realistic. But I guess I'm just hoping of big changes to Franchise every year only to see small ones that don't really resonate much with me. I totally agree with you though, about rushing to judgement before all the details are released. I'll reserve judgement until Thursday. I'm assuming there's more, because, like you said, how will they fill an hour long stream just by showing stats and the new FA and morale mechanic. There's gotta be more!

I'd like to see at least the ability to transport a created team from diamond dynasty into franchise but it isn't a game breaker. The problem with making massive changes is things could go massively wrong, especially in a franchise.

I suspect manager/coach ratings and attributes have changed because on the player cards I see a rating for the coaches. Player morale is very interesting. Team budgets have changed. Free agent signing has changed. They mentioned in the mistakenly leaked franchise video the amateur draft has changed. Scouting has changed with additional information provided for the amateur players. In the same video they mentioned progression has changed. Career stat tracking has changed.

That is a very nice package of changes, at least for me. I'd still like to be able to put my team on the field with my created logo and name but to say they didn't take a big swing at franchise isn't accurate.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by HustlinOwl

Really, we are in what year 8-9 of this games cycle and this is still not being done smh

Quote: Originally Posted by jb12780

Probably not as easy as you think it is. Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk

I don't think the difficulty level is all that relevant to something like this. At the core, who plays who is among the most important things possible in baseball. To have a franchise mode where the right teams are not even playing each other in future years really hinders the mode and especially any immersion. Sure some adds are "Legend Mode" in their resource consumption and difficulty (like a stadium builder would be), but I don't think the only consideration should be "how easy is this to put in the game?" If all we had were "Beginner Mode" features in the game, we'd have a very barren, boring, and bland game. They haven't shown a willingness to only go after low-hanging fruit when developing the game--they are passionate like we are about baseball, so I can't really understand how this is so far down the priority list other than it won't bring in XX new dollars like a "Battle Royale" mode might.

SCEA, and Ramone in particular, do a wonderful job of being up front and inclusive with fans of the game, and I think most of us are reasonable people...but the proper scheduling mechanic should really be in the game by now. Divisions have not realigned much in recent years nor have there been huge changes in the scheduling process.

[ryanmc564]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bondsfan

I can't help but be frustrated after that video, because afterall, franchise has changed in small increments, and every year it seems like "next year will be the year for franchise mode improvements". This stuff IS improvement, don't get me wrong. But its hardly anything that is going to be a game changer, at least for me. I could care less what David Ortiz's OPS in 1998 was. I just don't care. I know that hardcore stat folks have been clamoring for this level of detail, and I am thrilled for them that they were listened to and they go it. But it does little to impact the feel of a Franchise mode that is going stale, at least for me. Hopefully scouting and training are better, GM mode goals are better than "win the WS in the next two years or your fired", and the morale system is something that actually impacts the game (storylines mentioned in the radio show based on upset players?) rather than something like some tiny drop in rating by -1 or +1 based on the morale of the player. This is the third game on PS4. We're almost 1/2 way through the consoles life cycle before the next consoles launch. What we have right now is an improved PS3 experience when it comes to Franchise mode. The gameplay and graphics have taken a HUGE leap when it comes to the PS4, but Franchise mode just seems to be an afterthought. I would love to see a true next generation experience, akin to OOTP but where you can play the games. I know we're not going to get that in one year, I'm realistic. But I guess I'm just hoping of big changes to Franchise every year only to see small ones that don't really resonate much with me. I totally agree with you though, about rushing to judgement before all the details are released. I'll reserve judgement until Thursday. I'm assuming there's more, because, like you said, how will they fill an hour long stream just by showing stats and the new FA and morale mechanic. There's gotta be more!

Other than mentioning OOTP, what are you wanting to see change in franchise? what big things do you expect to be done? I ask because, I've seen few others share your frustration with Franchise but yet no ones seems to have any ideas on what they want out of franchise (other than ticket prices and vendor stuff) Me personally, I think franchise is fine, you can play as many seasons as you want, you can draft, you can sign free agents, you can trade players, send players down, bring players up. what am I missing? or better yet what is the show missing in franchise?

[Maverick09]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bondsfan

I can't help but be frustrated after that video, because afterall, franchise has changed in small increments, and every year it seems like "next year will be the year for franchise mode improvements". This stuff IS improvement, don't get me wrong. But its hardly anything that is going to be a game changer, at least for me. I could care less what David Ortiz's OPS in 1998 was. I just don't care. I know that hardcore stat folks have been clamoring for this level of detail, and I am thrilled for them that they were listened to and they go it. But it does little to impact the feel of a Franchise mode that is going stale, at least for me. Hopefully scouting and training are better, GM mode goals are better than "win the WS in the next two years or your fired", and the morale system is something that actually impacts the game (storylines mentioned in the radio show based on upset players?) rather than something like some tiny drop in rating by -1 or +1 based on the morale of the player. This is the third game on PS4. We're almost 1/2 way through the consoles life cycle before the next consoles launch. What we have right now is an improved PS3 experience when it comes to Franchise mode. The gameplay and graphics have taken a HUGE leap when it comes to the PS4, but Franchise mode just seems to be an afterthought. I would love to see a true next generation experience, akin to OOTP but where you can play the games. I know we're not going to get that in one year, I'm realistic. But I guess I'm just hoping of big changes to Franchise every year only to see small ones that don't really resonate much with me. I totally agree with you though, about rushing to judgement before all the details are released. I'll reserve judgement until Thursday. I'm assuming there's more, because, like you said, how will they fill an hour long stream just by showing stats and the new FA and morale mechanic. There's gotta be more!

Good post. I love The Show, I'll be picking up 16 for sure. Just the fact that they've tuned the overpowered pitcher progression in franchise mode makes it a must-buy in my eyes.

I got the same impression as you when I looked at the dev diary video. Stat tracking is an awesome feature that was added, but it feels like something that's been pretty standard in sports game dating back a long time. So I guess in that regard, it's a nice addition but it's nothing groundbreaking.

I share a bit of the same feeling with regards to the staleness of franchise mode. This isn't directed towards SCEA in particular, but more towards sports games in general. 2K has done a great job with the NBA series in adding new features to the mode, but franchise mode still feels a bit stale. Player morale is great addition, and will likely spice up the off-season quite a bit. I would love for the prospect scouting to have been improved upon.

I'll reserve my other thoughts until we've seen the stream on Thursday; they might be holding out on other added features/improvements they've made.