NBA 2K17 Screenshot - 1992 Dream Team with Charles Barkley

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by daveberg

Ok, honestly, please tell me if I'm going mad, but does the 2k13 Dream Team look BETTER than 2k17...?? Looks like more work and detailing on the 2k13 models, or am I just reaching now?

If you can get past all the ignorance and screaming and madness (which is why i dont watch any of these guys, he does point out some obvious issues)

[daveberg]

Quote: Originally Posted by MarkWilliam

I get what you're saying. My personal view is that I can stretch it and get on board with the 2K17 version IF; a); They fix MJ and Bird b): The all have a fair few signature animations each to give each player a unique type look/feel It may sounds crazy, but I'd make peace with the others if the above 2 points happened. But yes, I do see what you're getting at. And it possibly ties in with your point about how they sink time and money into the "mainstream" stuff..... maybe 2K13 allowed a bit more time to work on the legends...... I'm sure Jay Z would've put in hundreds of hours in the lab that year......

I could live with them fixing MJ & Bird, that would go a long way to making things better.

Quote: Originally Posted by 23

If you can get past all the ignorance and screaming and madness (which is why i dont watch any of these guys, he does point out some obvious issues)

Man.....oh man. Looking at him switching screens comparing the real life counterparts to the game art.......I just dunno what to say.

Shocking. And NOT in a good way.

[The 24th Letter]

Some of these need work regardless, but 2k hasnt quite nailed facial expressions yet, particularly smiling/smirking...so catch the right player in the middle of the wrong expression...they look much worse...

Reminds me of this thread:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum....php?t=857284/

For instance, MJ wasnt perfect in '16 by any stretch, but he wasnt as bad as the pic in the OP



same with Drexler, hes actually one of the better done legends...



Like I said though, in general- the legends in the game could still use a bit more attention....just providing some context.

Spoiler

[GisherJohn24]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

Totally playing devil's advocate, but maybe Jordan would look a small touch better in that screenshot if he weren't caught in the middle of one of those freakish smile mechanics situations. Then again, looking at his other features, not just the mouth, I'm not convinced he's been cleaned up. My only other thought was that maybe he'd be updated prior to launch. I understand, based off of recent 2K's, that classic players being updated accurately may not crack the list of things most likely to happen. But there was a time (2K11) when 2K seemed to be taking feedback and tweaking graphical mix-ups with classic players really late in the development cycle as a means of achieving perfection. Anyone remember the tongue issue? When MJ's was purple at first before 2K touched things up prior to release? Edit: Actually, reading through the old thread, 2K had fixed that tongue before even releasing that screenshot, so not exactly an example of feedback-and-fix. Either way, they were still going the extra mile with the classics at that point and it showed. The thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...creenshot.html

Has he stuck his tongue out in the next gen games? I know he did in 11 12 and 13 but if he did for next gen I guess I never noticed it.

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[BDM313]

Sir Charles Is In Thats All That Matters To Me As Long As The Gameplay Is Up To Par.

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by GisherJohn24

Has he stuck his tongue out in the next gen games? I know he did in 11 12 and 13 but if he did for next gen I guess I never noticed it.

Hmm, I think I asked that last year but I can't recall the answer, haha. I'm sure daveberg will know.

In a way, I kind of hope that another classic-centric mode like "Greatest" or "The Jordan Challenge" comes down the pipe at some point in the future, not only because those modes were incredibly fun, but also because it seems that'll be one of the few ways of motivating 2K to impart their details-driven magic on next gen classics like they did back in 2K11 and 2K12.

The little things are what makes classic teams and players come to life; the looks, gear, moves, dunks, surroundings, and sounds that are unique to those specific players, teams, and arenas. That's what makes them special... but it seems we've lost a bit of that over the past five years.

[daveberg]

Quote: Originally Posted by GisherJohn24

Has he stuck his tongue out in the next gen games? I know he did in 11 12 and 13 but if he did for next gen I guess I never noticed it. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

Hmm, I think I asked that last year but I can't recall the answer, haha. I'm sure daveberg will know. In a way, I kind of hope that another classic-centric mode like "Greatest" or "The Jordan Challenge" comes down the pipe at some point in the future, not only because those modes were incredibly fun, but also because it seems that'll be one of the few ways of motivating 2K to impart their details-driven magic on next gen classics like they did back in 2K11 and 2K12. The little things are what makes classic teams and players come to life; the looks, gear, moves, dunks, surroundings, and sounds that are unique to those specific players, teams, and arenas. That's what makes them special... but it seems we've lost a bit of that over the past five years.

Jordan does indeed have 'full tongue extension' (That one was for you, Red) in 2k16.

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Agreed, we've definitely seen a decline in signature looks/moves for the classics, even though they've been kind enough to add more teams to the game.

It would be something special if they could add all the bells and whistles to really make these legends stand out from the crowd.

[23]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

Some of these need work regardless, but 2k hasnt quite nailed facial expressions yet, particularly smiling/smirking...so catch the right player in the middle of the wrong expression...they look much worse... Reminds me of this thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum....php?t=857284/ For instance, MJ wasnt perfect in '16 by any stretch, but he wasnt as bad as the pic in the OP same with Drexler, hes actually one of the better done legends... Like I said though, in general- the legends in the game could still use a bit more attention....just providing some context. Spoiler

They've always been bad with expressions like smiling and those Jordans don't look good at all....face or body type