The Return of Formation Subs in Madden NFL 17

[Millennium]

The one thing I keep hearing here is "Why are they worried about exploits in CFM?".

Guys remember - we are a very specific niche at OS. A ton of CFMs are randomly created/joined by people with no thoughts to rules/regulations.

Until they can add the CFM Commish controlling aspects of Formation Subs then it is in their best interest for gameplay balance to keep the depth chart restrictions applied to Formation Subs as well.

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[Mauer4MVP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Millennium

we are a very specific niche at OS. A ton of CFMs are randomly created/joined by people with no thoughts to rules/regulations.

That kind of implies that they don't really care that much about those rules/regulations, though. There are exploits in the game right now that without house rules people could be abusing.

[Millennium]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP

That kind of implies that they don't really care that much about those rules/regulations, though. There are exploits in the game right now that without house rules people could be abusing.

It doesn't imply that in any way. And we're not talking about other exploits - we are talking about the implementation of Formation Subs.

When they implemented them they have to take into account that not every league is run by one person and filled by a group of his/her friends. There are a lot of 'lets just play organized' that could potentially cause issues with the game due to the lack of restriction in the depth chart/Form Subs.

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[Culture Rot]

Quote: Originally Posted by Millennium

It doesn't imply that in any way. And we're not talking about other exploits - we are talking about the implementation of Formation Subs. When they implemented them they have to take into account that not every league is run by one person and filled by a group of his/her friends. There are a lot of 'lets just play organized' that could potentially cause issues with the game due to the lack of restriction in the depth chart/Form Subs. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

So allow them offline, and disable them online, if it's such an issue.

[Millennium]

Quote: Originally Posted by xlatinoheatx

So allow them offline, and disable them online, if it's such an issue.

That's not the way CFM works. CFM online/offline are supposed to (with the exception of last year being a lack of the XP sliders) one in the same. You can't just implement one without the other at this point.

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[Mauer4MVP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Millennium

It doesn't imply that in any way. And we're not talking about other exploits - we are talking about the implementation of Formation Subs. When they implemented them they have to take into account that not every league is run by one person and filled by a group of his/her friends. There are a lot of 'lets just play organized' that could potentially cause issues with the game due to the lack of restriction in the depth chart/Form Subs. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

I don't see how it doesn't. If you really cared about those types of "exploits" you wouldn't be joining a random online CFM. You go into a random online CFM with the expectation that not everyone is hardcore or plays sim fooball. All those things are absolutely implied..
It's easy enough to find a serious CFM with some house rules. Not just on here but numerous other blogs, forums, etc.

[Millennium]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP

I don't see how it doesn't. If you really cared about those types of "exploits" you wouldn't be joining a random online CFM. You go into a random online CFM with the expectation that not everyone is hardcore or plays sim fooball. All those things are absolutely implied.. It's easy enough to find a serious CFM with some house rules. Not just on here but numerous other blogs, forums, etc.

So you're telling me that if I want to join a CFM as a random user who doesn't know anything about OS and doesn't have an online presenxe and just wants to play against others I should just be ready for the wild wild west? You can't even make those changes in MUT (yeah, you know the tournament style mode that no one here thinks cares about 'sim') but I should deal with it in CFM?

You are lumping these random CFMs together because you don't participate in them. You need to realize that there are people outside of our user group at OS that care about things and being able to do something you can't even do in MUT could seriously harm the experience.



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[Mauer4MVP]

Quote: Originally Posted by Millennium

So you're telling me that if I want to join a CFM as a random user who doesn't know anything about OS and doesn't have an online presenxe and just wants to play against others I should just be ready for the wild wild west? You can't even make those changes in MUT (yeah, you know the tournament style mode that no one here thinks cares about 'sim') but I should deal with it in CFM? You are lumping these random CFMs together because you don't participate in them. You need to realize that there are people outside of our user group at OS that care about things and being able to do something you can't even do in MUT could seriously harm the experience. Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

Why WOULDN'T you assume that? Take NBA 2k's team play or even go back to team play on previous Madden's. You go into with the caution that there may be someone that doesn't quite know what they're doing, ball hogging, exploiting stuff, etc.

It's the same thing if you join a random CFM on Madden or any sports game. You should be expecting to have some user that isn't going to play the game the way you want it. If you aren't, that really is your fault. It's so easy to find leagues with some rules.

Just google "join madden 16 cfm" and you'll find all kinds of results. Though, I honestly would recommend those people to come here because the passion of sports games lives here.

We can probably at least agree on that.