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Old 03-06-2017, 08:04 AM   #321
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Sounds like this is just the beginning of the commentary overhaul based on Steve's posts, so I'm excited to see how it evolves.

Adding individual player stories is a nice touch, but they do get old very quickly once you've heard them a few times, so be careful what you wish for there, fam. I actually prefer more generic commentary for that reason, and having the extra stat commentary for batter walk-ups is very huge, imo, and adds a ton to the overall presentation, not to mention the new statcast commentary.

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Old 03-06-2017, 08:13 AM   #322
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and having the extra stat commentary for batter walk-ups is very huge, imo, and adds a ton to the overall presentation

Yeah definitely will make it more immersing. Loving the batter vs. pitcher career stats that pop up too. Great addition.




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Well finally, that settles the argument once and for all unlike all the other vague statements with numbers. Good to know that going into the game to not expect much this year!
I can honestly say that I've seen nothing but negativity from all your posts this year. To say that we shouldn't expect much this year is absolutely ridiculous. This dev team is the most active on any forum that I've ever seen listening to feedback and implementing our ideas into their game. Lemme say that again. OUR ideas into THEIR game. Who does that? They don't have to do that. They don't have to come in here everyday and take feedback about what we want to see. But they do, bc they know we are all passionate fans of baseball and they want to make the best baseball game they possibly can for us. So give them a break, they're already doing more for us than any other dev team ever would.

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Old 03-06-2017, 09:21 AM   #324
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Commentary is tough...you can't be all things to all people.

What gets old?
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commentary tied to a certain type of hit
any type of joking back and forth between announcers


What does not get old?
comments on player performance during game
comments on player performance during season
comments on player career numbers
stats on how player has performed against pitcher in past
comments on current standings, races

You can see that the items that do not get old are pretty much all stats based...and that's just a few examples. The color guys get old, drag the commentary down to a certain degree. No knock on these guys as announcers, but it is the paradigm the game has to use.

Baseball is about stats. The game sounds fresh, and real, when stats are referenced throughout the broadcast. Personally, I don't really care if Player X spent his summers swinging a bat in a swimming pool (just an example). Stuff like that will be repeated over and over. I usually wind up shutting down the color guys and just listening to PbP during the game.

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I really hope we will see her in MLB The Show 18 as a Studio update reporter!

Even just her voice with fancy MLB Network Stat overlays would be fantastic!
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I really hope we will see her in MLB The Show 18 as a Studio update reporter!

Even just her voice with fancy MLB Network Stat overlays would be fantastic!


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Commentary is tough...you can't be all things to all people.

What gets old?
anecdotes
commentary tied to a certain type of hit
any type of joking back and forth between announcers


What does not get old?
comments on player performance during game
comments on player performance during season
comments on player career numbers
stats on how player has performed against pitcher in past
comments on current standings, races

You can see that the items that do not get old are pretty much all stats based...and that's just a few examples. The color guys get old, drag the commentary down to a certain degree. No knock on these guys as announcers, but it is the paradigm the game has to use.

Baseball is about stats. The game sounds fresh, and real, when stats are referenced throughout the broadcast. Personally, I don't really care if Player X spent his summers swinging a bat in a swimming pool (just an example). Stuff like that will be repeated over and over. I usually wind up shutting down the color guys and just listening to PbP during the game.

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Now, there's a thoughtful post. This is something that might be taken to heart. I can do without a joke, or funny line. I remember some of the commentary being player/team specific (something like Matt Cain is the backbone of the Giants pitching staff.....note: I'm just paraphrasing and don't recall if that was in the game or not, but something like that). But that ruined immersion if Cain got traded and it was said again.

Immersion is when I hear an amazing "He went 0-5 in yesterday's game". Amazing how that is slipped into the game. The "funny" lines seem to be too often repeated (Remember Hudler saying something about "meat", but can't quite recall the line).
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For the record, I wasn't talking specifically about you but OS in general. Sorry if it came off that way since I was responding to your post. We don't care that we don't have any competition currently. We still strive every year to make the best baseball game ever. We put our all into it. We appreciate that you guys are the hardcore fans and we all want to make the best game possible for you guys. Kirby along with Compton have only had a year and a half on The Show handling play by play and color commentary full time to make their mark on it. Give them some time. They have big plans for it but it's all not going to happen at once.

ETA: And by all means, keep the feedback coming. You guys have some great ideas. You all are passionate fans. We like that we have a partnership with the community and that you guys continue to push us to make the best baseball game we can.
The bolded gets lost with people here on OS.

I don't believe for a second SCEA is lazy or goes the easy way out...rather, they have integrity and dignity to ensure the game is the absolute best of the franchise. Also, they're baseball fans like us! If I recall, one of the devs was talking about their RTTS season last year and how some of the changes this year has him really excited for his own playing.

Whether there is competition such as 2K or another firm, or if SCEA is the only baseball product out there...I truly believe each year's game is the best their team can provide.
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