Madden NFL 18 Features New Target Passing, Coverage Assignments & More

[Critical Kills]

Quote: Originally Posted by XtremeDunkz

Well no because I am assuming that hopefully the more complex passing mechanic tied in with the simulation style of play should give the ratings more control over where a pass ends up. Young QBs with lower attributes are way more likely to throw errant passes with a new mechanic whereas with the old system every QB is more or less the same.

Well that may or may not be the case. If the user that is using the new passing system feels he's at a disadvantage using it there is nothing to stop him from going back to the traditional way though.

The point is it's not an uneven playing field when people have the ability to play the game however they feel they are most comfortable with.

[XtremeDunkz]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

Well that may or may not be the case. If the user that is using the new passing system feels he's at a disadvantage using it there is nothing to stop him from going back to the traditional way though. The point is it's not an uneven playing field when people have the ability to play the game however they feel they are most comfortable with.

Agree to disagree

[Critical Kills]

Quote: Originally Posted by XtremeDunkz

Agree to disagree

Yes but let me ask you one question. Are you thinking of this as prior to the game you choose your style of passing and then that is the style you're locked into using for that game?

Because if so, I could see why you might think that it'd possibly be unfair. In that case both people should be using the same passing method in a game.

But if it's skill based and you have the ability to choose on every play how you pass (on the fly), I don't see how you would think it'd put anyone who chose to use it at a disadvantage. If it isn't working for you and you need to get better at it, then go back to the normal passing method until you can practice and get better at it and then you're back to being on an even playing field with your opponent for that game.

As I said, I'd think a bigger worry would be that those who got good at it would get too good at it and it might unbalance the game if everyone is placing perfect passes all over the field using crappy QBs.

But assuming EA is able to keep ratings involved then that shouldn't happen.

[JoshC1977]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

You're making the faulty assumption that the person using the newer style passing system would be worse using it. They probably will be worse at using it at first but if they get good at it they likely have the potential to be even better than someone using the buttons. Traditionally that's the case for any sports games control schemes. The basic scheme of control is easily accessible for people to use, the more advanced schemes are harder to use but can offer a greater return on those who master them. I actually thought you were going to make the opposite point, that someone using the new targeting system could potentially make some scrub QB into a really good QB. That's probably something we should be more concerned about. But honestly if player ratings still come into play then that shouldn't be an issue..

The bolded is dead-on in my opinion. This is precisely how FIFA manual passing is...the more automated (tethered) is easier, but the manual controls can allow you to do WAY more things if you are good at it (I'm personally not...lol).

The current Madden passing when using the advanced controls is similar...you can do so much more with it, but you have to know what you are doing.....if M18 can tie-in a mechanic where the left stick is more responsible for ball placement and "de-tethers" the pass, it could work really well.

[XtremeDunkz]

Quote: Originally Posted by ODogg

Yes but let me ask you one question. Are you thinking of this as prior to the game you choose your style of passing and then that is the style you're locked into using for that game? Because if so, I could see why you might think that it'd possibly be unfair. In that case both people should be using the same passing method in a game. But if it's skill based and you have the ability to choose on every play how you pass (on the fly), I don't see how you would think it'd put anyone who chose to use it at a disadvantage. If it isn't working for you and you need to get better at it, then go back to the normal passing method until you can practice and get better at it and then you're back to being on an even playing field with your opponent for that game. As I said, I'd think a bigger worry would be that those who got good at it would get too good at it and it might unbalance the game if everyone is placing perfect passes all over the field using crappy QBs. But assuming EA is able to keep ratings involved then that shouldn't happen.

My entire point in a nutshell is passing, as it has been in Madden forever, is not challenging in the slightest. I can take Joe Stave and get him voted in to the Pro Bowl in a 32 man franchise. As a sim player in a sim league, this has been a huge gripe with the game for years.

So if EA decided to change the passing mechanic, hopefully it is to make it more realistic. Which would mean lower rated QBs would have trouble hitting their spots compared to high level QBs. If that were the case it would finally make franchise QBs worth what they should be worth when it comes to trading, salary, etc.

What you are proposing would ruin this for league play. To go back to my previous example; If I were to play with the Browns and start rookie Kizor. I don't like that he is low rated and the new passing mechanic makes him hard to use with a bunch of misfired passes. So I just toggle regular passing and proceed to throw darts to receivers with no regard to route timing and little rating influence. It would ruin balance and it would ruin the value of having an elite QB. Hope that makes sense. I don't care about offline, I don't care about cpu games, I don't care about MUT. 32 man online league play is all I am concerning this with.

[4thQtrStre5S]

As we know, in M17, the new Zones allowed us to change their type depending on if were shaded over or under, for example, I wonder if Coverage assignments could include more options to change whole zones and maybe even M2M coverages and take a step closer to assigning your fronts and backfield separately ?

[TheBleedingRed21]

I would love for passing to be very challenging. In my online leagues, guys were trading Andrew Luck for the likes of Jared Goff and having the same same success. That should never be the case and can only pray they make elite qbs relevant again.

[Greenblood60]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheBleedingRed21

I would love for passing to be very challenging. In my online leagues, guys were trading Andrew Luck for the likes of Jared Goff and having the same same success. That should never be the case and can only pray they make elite qbs relevant again.

When were elite QB's ever relevant ?