Offensive Line Sack Issues (Simulation)

[Mission001]

So looking for somewhere to post this for maybe some more Madden-thinking people to help me.

I have recently changed my Offensive Scheme and playbook to Vertical Zone Run and Tampa playbook after trying to find some good suggestions online for simulation play (I tend to watch the sim on the game screen rather than advance the week). This has given me mixed results (especially the Bills Defensive playbook), but by far the most perplexing thing is the offensive line and how many sacks they give up.

One man in particular. His name is BLAH. He is a 91 rated player in the correct philosophy (Agile) but gave up a whopping 19 sacks last year. I'm wondering what I can do to reduce the number. Or what to look out for on Offensive Lineman to make them better at protecting the QB.

The Stats for my RT are below:

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For those who cantread the pictures (Sorry for quality)
94 Strength
85 Run Block
84 Pass Block
69 Run Block Power
96 Run Block Finesse
64 Pass Block Power
91 Pass Block Finesse
84 Lead Block
83 Impact Block
94 Awareness
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67 Speed
84 Acceleration
75 Agility
95 Injury
84 Stamina
78 Toughness

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I originally thought maybe because it is his speed that's letting him down. But is it the Pass Block Power? Or something else. Your thoughts would be very much welcomed.

[Hooe]

You gotta get that Pass Block Power rating up. 64 is turnstile level. That’s going to be difficult since he’s already 31.

I honestly would find a team that needs an Agile scheme RT, trade him away, and try to find a more balanced player.

[Mission001]

Quote: Originally Posted by CM Hooe

You gotta get that Pass Block Power rating up. 64 is turnstile level. That’s going to be difficult since he’s already 31. I honestly would find a team that needs an Agile scheme RT, trade him away, and try to find a more balanced player.

So you think that's the main issue?
I guess that means you can't really develop young lopsided players as when you level them up, pretty much 9 times out of 10, when you increase a Archetype, all three increase?
Would you constantly put points into agile as thats my scheme or would you try and level off the achetypes as much as possible (Even though what i said above tends to happen).

Appreciate the response though!

[Funkycorm]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mission001

So you think that's the main issue? I guess that means you can't really develop young lopsided players as when you level them up, pretty much 9 times out of 10, when you increase a Archetype, all three increase? Would you constantly put points into agile as thats my scheme or would you try and level off the achetypes as much as possible (Even though what i said above tends to happen). Appreciate the response though!

What I do for OL. I do a 2:1:1 ratio.

So this means, I do 2 points in my main then 1 in each other archetype. I also only train at the end of my season.

You have to embrace that overall means nothing, especially when it comes to OL. It's the individual ratings that matter. I have had an OL of entirely 80-83 overall dominate because they have balanced stats all around. As an example, this RT is the 5th best RT in the league but likely plays like a middle one in the best of times.

I would agree with trading him away for a pick or two and then finding a new young replacement.

[oneamongthefence]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mission001

So you think that's the main issue? I guess that means you can't really develop young lopsided players as when you level them up, pretty much 9 times out of 10, when you increase a Archetype, all three increase? Would you constantly put points into agile as thats my scheme or would you try and level off the achetypes as much as possible (Even though what i said above tends to happen). Appreciate the response though!

Basically. Unless you scheme around their differences. But that's mostly played games. In The sim engine, I think it looks at ratings and the playbook. Also I believe that pass/run block power and agility doesn't matter in the sim engine. Just overall pass and run block. For example if he's 90 in pass block finesse/power but a 60 in overall pass block he's gonna give up a ton of sacks. That's an extreme example but it's just to give you an idea how the sim engine works.

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[Mission001]

Quote: Originally Posted by Funkycorm

What I do for OL. I do a 2:1:1 ratio. So this means, I do 2 points in my main then 1 in each other archetype. I also only train at the end of my season. You have to embrace that overall means nothing, especially when it comes to OL. It's the individual ratings that matter. I have had an OL of entirely 80-83 overall dominate because they have balanced stats all around. As an example, this RT is the 5th best RT in the league but likely plays like a middle one in the best of times. I would agree with trading him away for a pick or two and then finding a new young replacement.

Quote: Originally Posted by oneamongthefence

Basically. Unless you scheme around their differences. But that's mostly played games. In The sim engine, I think it looks at ratings and the playbook. Also I believe that pass/run block power and agility doesn't matter in the sim engine. Just overall pass and run block. For example if he's 90 in pass block finesse/power but a 60 in overall pass block he's gonna give up a ton of sacks. That's an extreme example but it's just to give you an idea how the sim engine works. Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Tapatalk

Thanks for both your replies.
So how would you go about looking for replacement rookies?
You looking for 70's across the board in the 3 categories for someone decent.
I have a few rookies but are again, lopsided in terms of the archetypes.

Drew Young: Currently playing LT (Pass Protector)
72 Pass Protector
67 Agile
66 Power

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Strength 90
Run Block 73
Pass Block 76
Run Block Power 61
Run Block Finesse 66
Pass Block Power 79
Pass Block Finesse 80
Lead Block 66
Impact Block 83
Awareness 77

Steve Stewart: Currently playing C (Agile)
72 Agile
67 Power
63 Pass Protector

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Strength 96
Run Block 77
Pass Block 73
Run Block Power 68
Run Block Finesse 81
Pass Block Power 67
Pass Block Finesse 75
Lead Block 84
Impact Blocking 87
Awareness 74

Sam McCain: Currently playing RG (Agile)
75 Pass Protector
68 Power
67 Agile

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Strength 88
Run Block 66
Pass Block 79
Run Block Power 67
Run Block Finesse 67
Pass Block Power 81
Pass Block Finesse 82
Lead Block 66
Impact Blocking 82
Awareness 77

Nate Wredstrom: Currently Starting RG (Agile)
77 Agile
69 Power
65 pass Protector

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Strength 98
Run Block 80
Pass Block 71
Run Block Power 66
Run Block Finesse 88
Pass Block power 68
Pass Block Finesse 77
Lead Block 84
Impact Block 84
Awareness 72

Do Lead Block and Impact Block when helping on the outside? Or just when on running plays? As Stewart has the best average of both of those.
You can also see they have very big differences between best and worst Archetypes, does that make for a bad player on a simulation?


Thanks for your opinions and help to understand the Madden system xD

[Httc4L]

I play on ps5, and no matter my o-lines rating the pass rush gets through. I believe it’s tied to my qb being a ‘scrambler’ . When I play my backup qb who isn’t mobile the blocking seems fine

[IlluminatusUIUC]

That guy looks like a goddamned monster of a blocking tight end. If you can get him in as a goalline fullback or a 6th OL type that will be taking on LBs or DBs and he will knock them into the gatorade table.