Madden 24 Secondary Play Is Bad

[ShaneTheMaster]

This is the worst I have seen secondary play on NextGen. 3 of these issues occurred in 1 game. It's hard to try and customize the game with sliders when issues like this will basically nullify the customizations you are making. These games were all slow-simmed, so I dont have the play calls. Below are some of the relevant settings I was using.

Difficulty: All-Pro
Min Speed Threshold: 80
Pass Coverage: 56/56
Pass Def Reaction Time: 54/54

Example 1:

Video says it all. We know EA doesn't program human error into the game - this is just a very bad bug.

https://youtu.be/HmZBy2Ah4Tw

Example 2:

Another blown coverage...

https://youtu.be/Mtwk4h6FQVE

Example 3:

Defenders dont know how to play pass defense in the endzone. They rather just stand still at the back of the end zone, instead of guarding the goal line.

https://youtu.be/TdeofcbtMvo

Example 4:

Running backs coming out of the backfield are a common blown coverage.

https://youtu.be/QXszHh8O_NA

Example 5:

Tackling is an issue often, too.

https://youtu.be/sreaRxpibyo

Example 6:

Another tackling glitch. Seems to happen when multiple defenders are trying to tackle.

https://youtu.be/tSKfneyAA04

[Jm0ney2001]

Yep. The defense is brain dead this year. Not sure why they changed it but it reminds me of madden back on the ps2. Too many big plays. It’s all offense. I have decided to lower my quarter length to 12 min/ 15 sec acc clock bc my first franchise game was 38-41 final on default all madden. My team was #3 on offense for the week but my defense was #32. I gave up 500+ yards of offense to Baker Mayfield 🤦*♂️

Hopefully a patch comes out to fix the defense and I can return to 15 min qtrs. I’m not a fane if every game being a shootout. This game is supposed to be a simulation of NFL football. The NFL has much better defense. Poor choice EA. [emoji35]


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[canes21]

Errors are coded to happen in the game, that's how the dice rolls work. That said, some of those clips are ugly, and I agree that the secondary gets lost in the end zone, especially in red zone play. They have zero idea of what to do there.

With clips 1 and 2, are you running with match coverage?

Clip 3 is awful and far too common.

Clip 4 is ugly. Haven't seen that myself yet, but obviously it can happen as your video is proof.

Clip 5 is just unfortunate physics at play. The missed tackle animation leads to the DB on the ground and the lack of awareness by the CPU plus the physics leads to the safety just ragdolling over the fallen DB. It's ugly, but at least understandable.

What difficulty level are you playing on, and have you adjusted sliders. If so, what were they in these clips? Specifically pass coverage, reaction time, and even threshold.

[toodles2you90]

Hard to really say much specifically on these videos without having any context to difficulty, sliders, defensive play calls, coaching adjustments, etc. Some look bad but blown coverages happen due to route combinations in the NFL every week so I'm fine with some of these happening every now and then.

They definitely need to tighten up the pass defense though specifically zone, I've made man coverage at least respectable with adjustments but zone needs some love for sure.

[ShaneTheMaster]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

Errors are coded to happen in the game, that's how the dice rolls work. That said, some of those clips are ugly, and I agree that the secondary gets lost in the end zone, especially in red zone play. They have zero idea of what to do there. What difficulty level are you playing on, and have you adjusted sliders. If so, what were they in these clips? Specifically pass coverage, reaction time, and even threshold.

I will edit the original post with this information - but I was playing CPU vs CPU, so no human intervention involved.

Difficulty: All-Pro
Min Speed Threshold: 80
Pass Coverage: 56/56
Pass Def Reaction Time: 54/54

Dont have the play calls, since they were slow-simmed.

[ShaneTheMaster]

Quote: Originally Posted by toodles2you90

Hard to really say much specifically on these videos without having any context to difficulty, sliders, defensive play calls, coaching adjustments, etc. Some look bad but blown coverages happen due to route combinations in the NFL every week so I'm fine with some of these happening every now and then. They definitely need to tighten up the pass defense though specifically zone, I've made man coverage at least respectable with adjustments but zone needs some love for sure.

yes, much of these problems seem to have to do with zone coverage. I edited my original post with more information on the settings I was using.

[toodles2you90]

Yea, those sliders are low. I was playing on All-Madden and I have my pass coverage/reaction at 95 and the computers at 80 now. Experimenting with All-Pro now and I still had them all above 75 for both human and cpu. 95 speed threshold.

The problem I have more with All-Pro though has been making the CPU run defense good enough.

[SolidSquid]

Zone coverage in the end zone has been a problem for so long now, they refuse to program “plaster” logic, where once routes declare you’re basically playing man, so instead we get defenders covering the back like of the end zone while a receiver squats in front of them and they are like “not my job, have to make sure no one gets behind me”