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Re: Bear Territory : California CF25

Just an utterly wild offseason, in one of the worst ways possible, leaves the ACC looking like the next conference that could collapse or go through another change of schools. The additions of Cal and Stanfurd were not welcomed by non-academic staffers, and SMU seems to have snuck by with a promise to forgo media funds for quite a while. Making things much worse was the atrocious handling of the final playoff standings, with the committee shoving aside 13-0 Florida State despite them being in the Top 4 prior to the final rankings. Florida State handled that the way any sane team would, by suing the ACC and all but announcing their intent to leave the conference on financial grounds. The ACC spent most of the offseason making headlines via lawsuits with Florida State and Clemson, there is some hope the noise will die down with the expanded playoff but the gap in revenue between the SEC / Big Ten and the ACC is getting wider pretty quickly.
Internal drama aside, the ACC is in a solid position in terms of the season as the third best conference. They were definitely the losers of the Conference Musical Chairs, but unlike the Big 12 and the PAC-12 they didn’t suddenly find themselves trying to fill empty seats. Competition for playoff slots will be tough, but the ACC should feel like putting two teams into the field won’t be impossible. The SEC and Big Ten will likely hoover up a number of slots, especially if one loss teams end up sitting out their conference title games, but it’s also likely all the added teams are going to be beating up on eachother. That being said, the ACC has a wide swath of big name programs that fell flat on their face in 2023. The welfare of Clemson and Miami is going to decide if more than the conference champion is headed to the playoff, add in Notre Dame’s schedule-only membership and their fortunes could buoy the conference in the eyes of the committee.

BIG MEN ON CAMPUS
OLB Barrett Carter (Clemson) - Carter might just be the best player in the ACC, he was at the top of many lists as the best LB for the 2024 NFL Draft but he opted to stay at Clemson for another year. Carter announced his return with the intent of closing out “unfinished business,” and with him at the heart of the Tigers LB corp he might be able to follow up on it.
RB Omarion Hampton (North Carolina) - Hampton was 5th in the nation in rushing yards with 1,504 to go along with 15TD. Only Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma State) and Tahj Brooks (Texas Tech) remain from the four players above him, it wouldn’t take much improvement to finish as the nation’s top RB and he certainly has a leg up on Cal’s Ott in the ACC. Hampton will be in the conversation as the top RB for the 2025 NFL Draft, so look for his name to become more familiar as the season goes on.
Hampton will need to overcome a rebuilt offensive line.
DE Patrick Payton (Florida State) - Payton went under the radar with Jared Verse playing across from him, but with Verse being taken 19th in the NFL Draft the show is Payton’s. Like his departed teammate, he’s an early favorite to be a first round pick and should help anchor one of the nation’s best defenses.
DE Ashton Gillotte (Louisville) - A bit raw, but still pegged as a first round selection, Gillotte helped power a surprisingly good Cardinals defense. He tallied (13) tackles for a loss along with (11) sacks in 2023, he might not be a household name but opposing offenses will certainly know him.
QB Cam Ward (Miami) - A third transfer, after Incarnate Word and Washington State, finds Ward in the national spotlight and a potential Heisman candidate. He flirted with entering the draft, but ended up the top transfer target in the portal. The Heisman race usually comes down to a handful of QBs, and Ward will have some talented receivers to work with, he could very well be the missing piece for Miami’s return to prominence..

SEASON PREDICTIONS
Conference Title / CFP Contenders
Head Coach : Mike Norvell (5th Year)
After a shocking, and frankly unwarranted, exclusion from the playoff after going 13-0 the Seminoles look like a near lock to make the expanded playoff. QB DJ Uiagalelei steps in for Jordan Travis, and Mike Norvell will likely still have one of the nations best defenses to rely on. They might not go 13-0 again, but with the field expanding and things trending up they can’t be counted out. ESPN’s 2024 Preseason Football Power Index (FPI) was very unkind to the Seminoles, ranking them 11th and predicting less than (9) wins.
Norvell brought Florida State back, can he keep them there?
Based on how the other teams in the conference fared, it’s tough to pick anyone else above them. Norvell has the advantage of returning a number of important starters on the offensive line as well as the secondary, not to mention probable first round pick DE Patrick Payton. Their primary weakness will be turnover on offense at the skill positions, Norvell hit the transfer portal pretty hard to replace Travis and WR Keon Coleman by adding Uiagalelei, WR Malik Benson (Alabama), and WR Jalen Brown (LSU). There is certainly an opening for another team to pip them to the title, but at the outset it’s hard to count them out as repeat ACC Champions.

Head Coach : Dabo Swinney (16th Year)
The Tigers really struggled in the ACC, going 4-4 in a season they should have been thinking about making the playoffs. A “neutral” site opener against Georgia in Atlanta likely won’t end well, but they have a favorable schedule for QB Cade Klubnik to settle into. If Dabo Swinney has a QB problem again, they can kiss any playoff hopes goodbye. The Tigers landed at 15th in ESPN’s FPI rankings, which is appropriate coming off Clemson’s worst team in nearly 12 years.
The Tigers are in a unique position in terms of their roster due to Swinney’s refusal to use the transfer portal to fill positions of need, instead relying on in-house development of prospects. It’s admirable, and certainly a draw for any player willing to work himself into a starting role, but it leaves them open to falling behind competitors. Year 2 of OC Garret Riley and Klubnik, both who struggled in their first season, might see the kinds of gains needed to close the gap on Florida State. A number of top players return, raising the floor for a team that needs to raise their performance on both sides of the ball, and getting OLB Barrett Carter to stay was a big win.
There is a decent gap between Florida State and everyone else, but it’s hard to count out Clemson coming off a down season. Swinney has enough talent on hand to knock the Seminoles off their perch, their October 5th matchup at FSU will decide who has the leg up and could be a preview of the ACC title game.

Top 25
Head Coach : Jeff Brohm (2nd Year)
The Cardinals will need to prove 2023 wasn’t a fluke, but UL should have a Top 25 offense to lean on and Jeff Brohm has shown he can do more with less. If their defense holds they could be higher on this list, they start the year 21st in FPI rankings.The Cardinals were a surprise participant in the ACC title game, and there is a non-zero chance they could make it back. They could be stuck in an unpleasant situation where they get beat up in non-conference games (at Notre Dame and Kentucky) but find a way into the ACC title game with a solid conference record. They will face Miami and Clemson from this group and a tough home game against SMU, if they can sneak up on Miami or Clemson they could control their conference destiny.

Head Coach : Mario Cristobal (3rd Year)
No team has more untapped potential than Miami, it’s hard to tell if they should be in the Playoff tier or just barely above Down & Out. Mario Cristobal did an incredible job at Oregon, but time may be running out in Coral Gables. Miami brought in a ton of high value transfers, primarily top QB Cam Ward (Washington State) and RB Damien Martinez (Oregon State), and they shouldn’t have any excuses left on offense. Cristobal was handed a Top 25 offense and a good QB when Manny Diaz was fired, but he failed to do much with that as the team got worse, if he can’t make good with the squad his name is going to be high on the list of coaches on the hot seat. Defensively the Hurricanes are in bigger trouble and least resemble The U of old, they have been decent enough (Top 50 in SP+) but have allowed 32.4 points per game against Top 50 offenses. They aren’t going to get very far if they give up 30+ points every time they face a good offense, even if Cristobal solves their offense the defense could do them in.
The Hurricanes have a lot to prove, but their upside is undeniable. They avoid Clemson during the regular season while facing Florida State at home. They also have an extremely favorable conference schedule, only facing fellow title challengers Louisville and Florida State. Initial FPI rankings are down on the Hurricanes, placing them 23rd.

Head Coach : Rhett Lashlee (3rd Year)
The Mustangs couldn’t have moved to the ACC at a better time. They finished 2023 11-3, AAC Champions, and had one of the best defenses in the country. Rhett Lashlee’s third year in Dallas has a lot of hype attached to it, SMU is being tipped as very likely to make a run at the ACC title game, but the ACC is very different from the ACC. DC Scott Symons should be given quite a bit of credit for the 11-3 record, taking SMU’s defense from 115th to 39th in his second year, and as a bonus they return a number of their best players at every level of the field. They augmented their roster with transfers, but there is still going to be the challenge of facing elevated competition every week in the conference. The offense is going to be lighting people up with QB Preston Stone throwing to a playmaking unit that barely lost anyone after last season and added some blue chip transfers as well.
SMU will get a rude scheduling wakeup after their first two games on a tough run against BYU, TCU, Florida State, and finishing at Louisville. If they can get through the first six games with two or less losses, they could cruise to double digit wins with a very favorable schedule to close out the year. Avoiding Miami and Clemson sets them up with an outside shot at the ACC title game, more losses in there could be a red flag for their first season in the ACC.

Head Coach : Dave Doeren (12th Year)
The Wolfpack might be hard to read after last year, but it’s hard to put them in the next tier down after how they finished 2023. Last year they started 4-3 with three of those wins against terrible teams (UConn, Virginia, and Marshall) but turned into a completely different team in the second half to finish 5-1 with a loss to Kansas State in their bowl game. Which NC State is going to show up in 2024? Enough pieces remain, plus a surprising transfer haul, to think that another 9-win season might be in the books. Doeren’s biggest transfer win was landing Coastal Carolina’s Grayson McCall, giving them a veteran presence who could elevate their offense.
NC State will benefit from one of the easier schedules in the ACC, with one brutal non-conference game (Tennessee at home) and a trip to Clemson (who they beat in 2023) as their toughest contests. They don’t face any other teams above them on this list so a 10-2 regular season seems very reasonable.

Going Bowling
Head Coach : Brent Pry (3rd Year)
If there was a ‘next in the Top 25’ tier VT might be in it, Brent Pry enters his third year coming off a very hot finish to the 2023 season. VT returns more production than any team in the nation (95% on offense, 77% on defense) with QB Kyron Drones putting on a poor man’s Jayden Daniels performance last year. The Hokies finished 7-6 but might be staring at a 10-2 record with Miami and Clemson their toughest games and a road game at Duke in late November their next hardest. If they expand on how they finished 2023 they could be a dark horse ACC title game participant.

Head Coach : Mack Brown (16th Year)
It’s almost hard to believe Mack Brown is still going, now in the 6th year of his second stint at UNC, but he continues to give the Tarheels a level of consistency that many programs would kill for. Losing QB Drake Maye to the NFL gives this team a sense of starting over, especially because the QB’s available likely won’t come anywhere close to his level of production. Conner Harrell and Texas A&M transfer Max Johnson haven’t done much to be impressed about, making things worse is an offensive line rebuild that could put Brown in a tough position. He will have highly touted RB Omarion Hampton, who did an incredible Tecmo Bowl Bo Jackson impression last year, who could reduce some pressure on the passing game as long as the line rebuild isn’t a disaster. Defensively, the Tar Heels are not going to impress anyone but Brown’s rotation of DC’s (Geoff Collins is his third in four years) hasn’t helped solve the problem. Despite returning some starters, they should be a mid-FBS ranked defense.
UNC enjoys a borderline startlingly easy schedule, with a road opener against Minnesota and late season games at Florida State and home against NC State their hardest games. The Victory Bell will of course be at stake as they go on the road to Duke, and rivalry games are always special, but outside of that Brown will have his plate full with very winnable games while avoiding a long flight to the West Coast to face Cal or Stanfurd.

Head Coach : Manny Diaz (1st Year)
The departure of Mike Elko to Texas A&M will hurt Duke, but bringing in Diaz should help them maintain a defense that kept them in games all year. Diaz makes his return to the ACC after a head coaching stint at Miami and being the DC at Penn State, so he’s familiar with the territory and should be able to at least hold the line for a Duke football program that was once one of the worst in FBS. Duke’s biggest problems this season will be its offensive and defensive lines, which need to be rebuilt. Everywhere else they return a number of starters and key players, even with starting QB Riley Leonard leaving for Notre Dame they have reasonable replacements in Sophomore Grayson Loftis or Texas transfer Maalik Murphy. The Blue Devils will need more to escape this tier, rebuilding lines could hurt their program momentum, but not enough to drop them below .500 on the season.

Head Coach : Brent Key (2nd Year)
The Yellow Jackets managed a mini-renaissance in 2023 after Paul Johnson’s retirement four years ago. They have been bad for some time, but Key managed to pull off a 7-6 season that included a Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl win over UCF and things look to be trending up. Texas A&M transfer QB Haynes King was a breath of fresh air, and his dual-threat abilities helped their offense go from 122nd to 50th in SP+.
There’s a lot to feel good about in Atlanta, but their schedule might be a haymaker for anything more than bowl eligibility. They bizarrely open the seasons at home against Florida State and will have three games to recover before they have to go through a run that would charitably be called difficult. They close September at Louisville, then play Duke, at UNC, Notre Dame, at Virginia Tech, Miami, NC State, and then finish the season with Clean Old-Fashioned Hate which could very well be an embarrassing affair. For every team that avoided ACC title contenders in their schedule, Georgia Tech seems to have added them.

Down & Out
Head Coach : Fran Brown (1st Year)
Unfortunately for Syracuse fans this season is probably going to be about taking some lumps and rebuilding a program on and off the field. Brown’s first year at Syracuse might not do much for the wins column, but the winning he’s going to need to do is off the field. He’s spent most of his career working under noted program builders like Matt Rhule, Greg Schiano, and Kirby Smart, and Syracuse could definitely use all of that knowledge. The most notable addition to the roster was former Ohio State starting QB Kyle McCord, and they return a number of starters from last years offense for an opportunity at some stability. The defense only returns six starters, and depth on the line and secondary could be concerning.
Syracuse have a decent schedule with a tough road game at NC State and a visit from Miami to finish out the season. There’s an outside shot at 6-6, but with it being Brown’s first year that might feel more like an extreme ceiling than an achievable result.

Head Coach : Bill O’Brien (1st Year)
BC finds itself in a situation similar to Syracuse, just with less available talent and a much harder schedule. O’Brien has bounced around between the NFL and college with a head coaching stint at Penn State at the Houston Texans. He inherits a team that was good at running the ball and stopping other teams from doing the same, but terrible at anything involving a pass. QB Thomas Castellanos returns, but O’Brien went out and added a pocket passer in FIU’s Grayson James, and many decent skill position players along with an experienced offensive line remain. The biggest issue, which O’Brien took a risk in fixing, is the defense. O’Brien brought in Tim Lewis as his DC, but he’s spent most of his time in the XFL and USFL, the last time he worked in college was 1994. O’Brien should get a bit of a pass in his first year, but it likely won’t be pretty.
The Eagles snuck into, and won, their bowl game last year against ACC debutant SMU. This year it’s going to be hard to get to six wins, they should be firm underdogs in six of their games and road trips to Florida State, Missouri, and SMU won’t help them escape that. They also host Michigan State and Louisville.

Head Coach : Justin Wilcox (8th Year)
Cal under Wilcox is a little hard to predict, they jump up and down but generally avoid being absolutely horrible. Vacillating around the 6-6 threshold is never good, but Wilcox really pulled out of his hat in 2023. Wilcox managed to build a Top 30 SP+ defense for four straight years, but that completely collapsed in 2022 and 2023. Last year they were regularly gashed on defense, but somehow were able to force quite a few turnovers. Perhaps turnover lottery tickets helped save them, but you can never rely on turnovers.
It will be hard for the Golden Bears to make a bowl game, but not impossible. Brutal road games against Auburn and Florida State in the first four games should have Cal heading into the meat of their conference schedule at 2-2, and they will enjoy a number of games against weaker opponents. Cal ranked 43rd in the initial FPI rankings, a spot below UNC, so perhaps the advanced metrics are seeing something good.

Head Coach : Pat Narduzzi (10th Year)
The Panthers might be in for a rough season, but they have reasons to be hopeful. Narduzzi has had six, six, offensive coordinators in his ten seasons at Pitt. Things have rarely gone well for them on that side of the ball during his term, the bright spots being Matt Canada’s run in 2016 and Mark Whipple’s 2021 where they had Kenny Pickett throwing the ball to Jordan Addison. The introduction of Western Carolina’s Kade Bell should signal an improvement, WCU averaged 38 points per game in 2023 which is significantly better than Pitt’s 20.2. Many skill positions return, a change to an up-tempo offense should bring more points but it’s hard to expect Bell to snap his fingers and fix everything out of the gate. On defense, Narduzzi’s specialty, they dipped last year and lost a lot of production for 2024 while hitting the portal hard to fill the voids. Pitt’s defense has been good under Narduzzi, so it’s more than likely the dropoff will be corrected.

Head Coach : Tony Elliot (3rd Year)
The Cavaliers had a tough 2023 after the team and community suffered through a horrible tragedy in 2022. A very young and inexperienced offense and a defense that saw twenty-one players start at least once didn’t make things easier. Their rushing attack was terrible last year, and there isn’t much evidence this will be different this year, luckily for Elliot it looks as though they will be able to run their offense around a decent passing attack. Defensively the Cavaliers will be mediocre at best, with a rushing defense that could be decent but a secondary that will haunt them all season.

Head Coach : Dave Clawson (11th Year)
Boy, Wake Forest did not handle the departure of Sam Hartman to Notre Dame well at all. 2023 was nearly the worst season under Clawson, who had managed to elevate the Demon Deacons quite a bit since coming to Winston-Salem. It’s going to be hard for things to be much worse, but it’s also hard to see things getting much better over a single season. Hartman’s replacement, Mitch Griffis, left the program and Clawson added Hank Bachmeier (Louisiana Tech) to compete with Senior Michael Kern. Bachmeier is on his third school after starting out at Boise State
The Demon Deacons went 4-8 last year and drew the short straw when it came to scheduling. They open against FCS opponent North Carolina A&T and get Louisiana and Virginia at home, but get stuck with a long road trip to Stanfurd. Road games at UNC, Miami, and NC State won’t do them any favors, and their home game against Ole Miss will likely be something they’ll want to forget. It might be a serious struggle to get to four wins again.

Bottom 10 Material
Head Coach : Troy Taylor (2nd Year)
Awful in 2023, but that was Year 1 of Troy Taylor’s traitorous turn at the helm after parting ways with David Shaw. Moving on from the Jim Harbaugh-Shaw coaching line was bound to be tough, it also didn’t help that they ranked 130th in returning production as players fled the program. A brutal schedule (TCU, Clemson, Notre Dame, SMU, NC State, Louisville) will have them behind the eight ball for bowl eligibility. They could also enter all but two games, Cal Poly & San Jose State, as firm underdogs. If Taylor can get things moving forward they could easily escape this tier, but their schedule will do everything it can to make them look terrible. The Cardinal land 59th in the FPI rankings, 4th worst in the ACC, but again their schedule will conspire against them.
FIVE BEST ACC GAMES OF 2024
Here are the five conference games that feature (a) the highest combined SP+ ratings for both teams and (b) a projected scoring margin under 10 points, or a must watch / unique matchup. Figuring out who will be in the ACC title game with presumptive favorite Florida State is an ongoing theme, that spot could be wide open almost until the end of the season.
Clemson at Florida State (Week 6) - Likely a preview of the ACC title game, both teams will be right in the middle of the season and should know what their trajectory will be. A loss in this game, as long as they haven’t lost already, won’t kill off their playoff chances as long as the winner doesn’t fall apart and devalue the matchup. The last twelve times these teams met, the winner went on to win the ACC eleven times.
Miami at Louisville (Week 8) - With the Clemson / Florida State game out of the way, this game could line up to be an audition to slip into the title game. This could also be a serious fireworks display with the offensive upside, or Louisville’s defense could turn it into more of a grind-it-out kind of affair. Either way, the winner could still be in the playoff picture.
Florida State at Miami (Week 9) - This could either be a great game, if either are undefeated or with just a single loss, or it could be Florida State asserting itself as King of the ACC / Florida. Miami gets to decide how ‘must watch’ this game is, if they are falling apart and out of playoff contention this game might be more notable for Mario Cristobal’s job security.
Louisville at Clemson (Week 10) - Another potential title game influencer, if Clemson loses to Florida State they can’t afford to drop another game against a team looking to slide into the title game. So close to the end of the season, the loser of this one might just be kissing any playoff hopes goodbye.
Stanfurd at California (Week 13) - The first Big Game of the ACC Era will be fun, and played nearly 2,000 miles away from the rest of the league, but the timing means the winner might be able to secure a bowl berth. This could also end up being the Schadenfreude Bowl with the winner ruining the loser’s season. Both teams are aiming to be on the edge of bowl eligibility, with Stanfurd likely needing to win their final two games to have any chance at six wins, and Cal closing out with a rough game at SMU.
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