BAP realism with 20 minute periods

[Tsgeek]

UPDATED 1/18/25

BAP sliders

I've got the periods back to the full 20 minutes like I wanted. I stick by my fatigue values, at least for BAP. Forwards are on the ice 45-75 seconds per shift, and it takes almost 2 shifts of sitting to get back to full energy. My line 1 RW ends up with 20-21 minutes of ice time per game. I also got hits down to where I want them, with a team RARELY going over 30 hits per game.

A couple screenshots from my last 2 games are at the bottom of this post. These were both wild shootouts compared to most of my games. Cheryl did NOT like the defense being played.




Hey all,

I've had a couple people on Reddit asking me to post my sliders. I've been tinkering for a LONG time, and I've come up with a slider set that works well for me. I'm always trying to tweak.

I'm going for as close to realistic outcomes as possible, using full 20 minute periods. I play BAP almost exclusively. I want to keep total shots between 25-35 per team per game, hits under 30 per team per game, with goals generally 5 or fewer per team. I'd like player shifts to be something around 45-75 seconds per FW shift. My actual scores tend to be lower than that, but there's an occasional big scoring outbreak, like there should be. If you're looking for end-to-end arcade hockey, this is NOT for you.

I've played around with difficulty levels, and keep coming back to Superstar. Not because I'm that good, but because it keeps my teammates and opponents from doing incredibly stupid things all the time. Guys still get out of position and make some terrible decisions, but it's a lot less than at lower difficulty levels.

I've never posted sliders before, so here goes...

BE A PRO SETTINGS

PERIOD LENGTH: 20 minutes
DIFFICULTY: Superstar
RULES: Custom
FIGHTING: 2/2
ICING: Hybrid icing
INJURIES: On
OFFSIDES: Delayed
PENALTIES: 3/4
TRAPEZOID RULE: On
PENALTY TIME SCALING: 6/6
COINCIDENTAL PENALTY TIME SCALE: 6/6
BE A PRO SETTINGS: Authentic
BE A PRO SIMMING PENALTY: Off (up to you)
OFFLINE BE A PRO CAMERA: Dynamic Medium (up to you)
WEEKLY XP GAINED REMINDER: On (up to you)
AUTOSAVE: On

GAMEPLAY SLIDERS

GENERAL
GAMEPLAY VERSION: Latest
ATTRIBUTE EFFECTS: 8/10 (I'm still playing with this one)
BROKEN STICK FREQUENCY: 35
BROKEN GLASS: On
GAME SPEED: 0/6 (Critical)
FATIGUE EFFECT: 90/90 (CPU/Human)
FATIGUE RECOVERY: 15/15
INJURY OCCURRENCE: 50/50

SKATING
BACK SKATING: 76
PUCK CARRIER AGILITY: 0
PUCK CARRIER SKATING: 15
PLAYER ACCELERATION: 0/0
SKATING SPEED: 5/5
SKATING AGILITY: 18/18

SHOOTING
ONE-TIMER ACCURACY: 45/45
SHOT ACCURACY: 35/35
SHOT POWER: 35/35
SLAPSHOT ACCURACY: 35/35
SLAPSHOT POWER: 35/35

PASSING
MANUAL PASSING: On
PASS ASSIST: 0
MIN PASS SPEED: 0
MAX PASS SPEED: 40
SAUCER PASS SPEED: 35
PASS ACCURACY: 0/0
PASS INTERCEPTIONS: 100/100
PAST RECEPTION EASE: 38/38
RECEPTION REACTION TIME: 47/47
PUCK CONTROL RATING EFFECT: 75/75
PUCK SPEED RECEPTION EFFECT: 45/45
PICK UP TYPE EFFECT: 60/60
BOUNCING PUCK RECEPTIONS: 20/20

PUCK CONTROL
STICK IN PHYSICS: Stick, legs and body
INCIDENTAL CONTACT PUCK LOSS:
STICK CONTACT IMMUNITY: 10/100
PUCK CONTROL: 27/27
DEAKING IMPACT: 58/58
SPIN DEKE IMPACT: 55/55
RATING IMPACT: 40/40

GOALIES
GOALIE COVER FREQUENCY: 75/100
GOALIE PASSING: 24/100
GOALIE CROSS CREASE REACTION TIME: 60/60
GOALIE SAVE REACTION TIME: 20/20
GOALIE DEFLECTION REACTION TIME: 20/20
GOALIE SCREEN EFFECT: 85/85
GOALIE SCREEN PERSISTENCE: 56/56

CHECKING
BOARD EFFECT NON-PUCK CARRIER: 75/100
BOARD EFFECT PUCK CARRIER: 75/100
HITTING ASSISTANCE: 0/100
STUMBLE THRESHOLD: 85/100
FALL AND STUMBLE FALL EASE: 30/100
AGGRESSION: 0/0
HITTING POWER: 0/0
SIZE EFFECT: 50/50
SPEED EFFECT: 30/30
CHECKING/BALANCE RATING EFFECT: 50/50
PREPAREDNESS EFFECT: 5/5
INCIDENTAL CONTACT EFFECT: 25/25
POKE CHECK ACCURACY: 90/90
POKE CHECK POWER: 10/10
STICK LIFT EFFECTIVENESS: 90/90

PENALTIES
CPU PENALTIES: 10/ 100
CPU TEAMMATE PENALTIES: 10/100
TRIPPING 100/100
SLASHING: 100/100
ELBOWING: 100/100
HIGH STICKING: 100/100
CROSS-CHECKING: 80/80
BOARDING: 100/100
CHARGING: 93/93
DELAY OF GAME: 40/40
HOLDING: 55/55
HOOKING: 100/100
INTERFERENCE: 50/50

AI
AI LEARNING: 3/6
CPU DIFFICULTY ADJUSTMENT: 1/6
CPU FACE OFF DIFFICULTY: 50/100
FIGHT DIFFICULTY: 50/100
CPU STRATEGY ADJUSTMENT: 2/6

ASSISTED STRATEGIES
BAP STRATEGY ADJUSTMENT: 4/6

No slider set is ever truly done. Please share any ideas you have. Thanks!

[bubs3141]

Post some box scores to see how it goes. These look good. I do not play bAP but I do play coach mode. I currently play 11 minutes. I have always wanted to try 20.


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[bubs3141]

OK, I played one. Period with exactly your settings on franchise mode Rangers versus Boston Bruins. I play as coach mode so they’re setting should be exactly as you are no human interference. The only thing I do differently is I do manual line changes for the Rangers. The thing that I noticed was fatigue was way too high that all of my lines were completely depleted by the 10 minute mark, which made everybody play a lot slower so I did make some adjustments for period two fatigue effect is going to be 85 for both CPU and human and fatigue recovery will be 34 for both CPU and human. I’ll try that for period two.

Shots: 7 Boston 18 NY
Hits:16 vs 15


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[bubs3141]

After 2 periods fatigue is much better. I think I will keep those settings.

Shot totals are high. But I don’t know if that can be fixed. Maybe alter accuracy a little.

2nd period shots 17 Boston vs 16 NY (2nd period only)

Hits 23 Boston vs 25 NY (total game)


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[bubs3141]

Ok at the end of game. The only change made for 3rd period was lower shot accuracy for both cpu/hum by 5.

Shot totals: Boston 33 NY 44
Hits: Boston 37 NY 38
Score Boston 3 NY 2

Overall decent stats.


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[Tsgeek]

Quote: Originally Posted by bubs3141

Ok at the end of game. The only change made for 3rd period was lower shot accuracy for both cpu/hum by 5. Shot totals: Boston 33 NY 44 Hits: Boston 37 NY 38 Score Boston 3 NY 2 Overall decent stats. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's getting pretty close to what I'm aiming for. I just posted an update with full 20 minute periods.

[Tsgeek]

OP has been updated for a full 20 minute period. In 20-25 games played (all BAP, but some games and periods simmed) I'm staying in my desired range for shots (25-35 per team per game) and hits (under 30 per team). Most of my CHL games were under 25 shots per team, while NHL players generate a few more. There's a lot of neutral zone back and forth. Trying to get through the defense on your own is VERY hard, at least for me, but I'm terrible at anything but the one-button DEKE.

Again, if you prefer the game wide open, with perfect passing, stick handling, etc, you will not be happy. This is for those that really want to grind.

[tmello5]

Are you swimming till next shift or watching the game from the bench until subbed in?

Thanks for sharing your work, your concept/stat goals is exactly what I’ve been looking for regarding BAP