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Old 08-17-2009, 12:11 PM   #1
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The worst thing about this game, and a solution

So after reading and posting in a couple threads here for the 1st time in a couple weeks, I did a logical progression in my head (something NCAA apparently cant do .. har har) and this is what I came up with.

The worst part of this game is that, legitimately, on field, it is a better football gameplay product than 2009. In all facets of the game. This is however ruined and made pointless by the fact that progression ruined the offline main feature of the game, dynasty. No self respecting football gaming fan or college fan can have fun running a dynasty where Fresno State wins the NC, or USC loses the Rose Bowl to Troy or some **** (I cant remember but it was bad). But that, my friends, isn't the end of it. The REAL worst thing about all this is that even then, after playing Madden now for a week, it's very clear that even with progression fixed I wouldn't play NCAA. Madden is a better product, more polished, more precise. Running is as good as 2k5 was, passing feels realistic, and if you dont like the game speed, injury frequency, or, difficulty, they are all perfectly adjustable with working, responsive sliders.

So then the question becomes, for hard core college ball lovers like us... what is the remedy?

Fire the entire dev team for NCAA, and bring in a small team to take the Madden code as its being built, and make it college. All you need to do is add the art, stadiums, and the option to make the game play college. Scrap franchise and instead put in a recruiting system that works (very basic code) and a progression system that makes sense (again very basic code... shame on the current Dev team for ****ing up even a cup of coffee in the coding world). This would save EA money, give us a great football product, and smarten up the devs who ruined this once great series.
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:13 PM   #2
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Fire the entire dev team for NCAA, and bring in a small team to take the Madden code as its being built, and make it college. All you need to do is add the art, stadiums, and the option to make the game play college. Scrap franchise and instead put in a recruiting system that works (very basic code) and a progression system that makes sense (again very basic code... shame on the current Dev team for ****ing up even a cup of coffee in the coding world). This would save EA money, give us a great football product, and smarten up the devs who ruined this once great series.
You make it sound like we actually have some kind of power or influence to make these kinds of things happen. I wish we did but we don't.
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:16 PM   #3
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You make it sound like we actually have some kind of power or influence to make these kinds of things happen. I wish we did but we don't.
I would suggest to you that we do, and, more importantly, the mass populace does. Declining sales speak louder than this forum post does.

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I would suggest to you that we do, and, more importantly, the mass populace does. Declining sales speak louder than this forum post does.
Good point.

I think it's come to a point now where we at least have an increasing number of people no longer jumping and just buying these games on day one sight unseen.

I've been like that for about 3 years with Madden and will be like that with NCAA from now on (although I think 10 is a LOT better than 09 was.)

I'm someone who has played and bought every Madden and NCAA game since day one on the Genesis and I know I'm hardly the only "old timer" that's feeling this way and reacting accordingly.

It's a start, so I guess at that rate...you're right.
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So after reading and posting in a couple threads here for the 1st time in a couple weeks, I did a logical progression in my head (something NCAA apparently cant do .. har har) and this is what I came up with.

The worst part of this game is that, legitimately, on field, it is a better football gameplay product than 2009. In all facets of the game. This is however ruined and made pointless by the fact that progression ruined the offline main feature of the game, dynasty. No self respecting football gaming fan or college fan can have fun running a dynasty where Fresno State wins the NC, or USC loses the Rose Bowl to Troy or some **** (I cant remember but it was bad). But that, my friends, isn't the end of it. The REAL worst thing about all this is that even then, after playing Madden now for a week, it's very clear that even with progression fixed I wouldn't play NCAA. Madden is a better product, more polished, more precise. Running is as good as 2k5 was, passing feels realistic, and if you dont like the game speed, injury frequency, or, difficulty, they are all perfectly adjustable with working, responsive sliders.

So then the question becomes, for hard core college ball lovers like us... what is the remedy?

Fire the entire dev team for NCAA, and bring in a small team to take the Madden code as its being built, and make it college. All you need to do is add the art, stadiums, and the option to make the game play college. Scrap franchise and instead put in a recruiting system that works (very basic code) and a progression system that makes sense (again very basic code... shame on the current Dev team for ****ing up even a cup of coffee in the coding world). This would save EA money, give us a great football product, and smarten up the devs who ruined this once great series.
I wish EA would fire their dev team for NCAA and bring the team back that made NCAA 04-06 those were the bomb.
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.... please, please, please.... just bring back the 06 game with the 2010 graphics. That is all I want. Formation subs, fcs, pre-game, coaches, refs, heisman ceremony, stat overlays, and atmosphere.... is it really asking for too much to have these in the game???
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.... please, please, please.... just bring back the 06 game with the 2010 graphics. That is all I want. Formation subs, fcs, pre-game, coaches, refs, heisman ceremony, stat overlays, and atmosphere.... is it really asking for too much to have these in the game???
Even though none of us should HAVE to...I'd probably pay $100 myself for that game you just described. Sad, but true.

I'd also keep that game for a long, long time or until whenever something appreciably better than it across the boards would ever come out.
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Even though none of us should HAVE to...I'd probably pay $100 myself for that game you just described. Sad, but true.

I'd also keep that game for a long, long time or until whenever something appreciably better than it across the boards would ever come out.
For old times sake I just played 06 for about tem minutes. Right off the bat... I have a pre-game with warm-ups, I see the coaches, I see the refs, I palyed against a REAL FCS school, I had formation subs, I had the screen shaking and the crowd going crazy, my players had skill and ability composure bublles and I could see the other teams as well AND there were great stat overlays (number of tackles, qb passing ratio to each side of the field, etc.). Man I love this game... it's too bad the graphics are so weak. P.S. the running backs don't turn on a dime... wow!
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