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Dmrepsuga5 · 03-31-2010, 11:03 AM

Ok so every year I know we all get pretty frustrated with the slow turn caused by animations that make the fielders lolly gag to turn a double play, often causing the runner to be safe at first. Whether it's a brutally slow flip, 3rd baseman double pumping and lofting it to 2nd no matter what you do to preload the throw on the meter. I guess we've grown to live with these animations. This year however, there's an added blip that is driving me NUTS: middle infielder throwing the ball into the outfield to get the first out at 2nd!!!

This has happened to me at least 5-10 times and I'm maybe 25 games into my Franchise with the Mets. And it always seems to happen in HUGE spots. Last night facing the Dodgers in a tie game in the top of the 9th the Dodgers had a man on 1st with Manny up and 1 out. I make a good pitch, Manny hits it right to Luis Castillo and I preload a nice soft pitch to Reyes (green on the meter since it was hit hard and no need to rush the double play) and guess what happens??? Castillo launches the ball into left field, and the flood gates open the rest of the inning.

Jose Reyes has done this at least twice, Castillo has done this 3-4 times...even guys who get spot starts at 2nd or SS do it in limited time. Castillo already has 5 errors (4 of them throwing) in April (platooning with Alex Cora no less, so he has even less opportunities). he had 11 errors ALL YEAR in real life last season and 6 the year before. big league ball players don't mess up the soft toss to 2nd base this often and it's driving me mad!!!!!

after the game I wanted to kill someone. aside from adjusting the throwing error sliders down (which I'm forced to do now), does anyone have any tips?

FrenchDavid · 03-31-2010, 11:28 AM

You should have put more power into your throw

I always play them with mid-power and turn them fine...

Woodweaver · 03-31-2010, 11:37 AM

I have really never seen any issues turning DPs. When there are errors, they seem natural.

You say you are preloading your throws. Do you max out the meter? If so, it isn't really needed on throws of @75ft or less, and it will increase your chance of errors.

Dmrepsuga5 · 03-31-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodweaver


	I have really never seen any issues turning DPs. When there are errors, they seem natural. You say you are preloading your throws. Do you max out the meter? If so, it isn't really needed on throws of @75ft or less, and it *will* increase your chance of errors.

I never load up the bar when a middle infielder is going to turn a DP. They are stationary, receive the grounder just fine, then launch the ball into the OF blowing the entire play. if it happened once in a blue moon like in real life, that'd be great. but it happens wayyy to often.

last night Castillo threw it into the OF literally standing 5 feet from Reyes. He blew an underhand flip for crying out loud

harvey88 · 03-31-2010, 01:34 PM

I've played 55 games in my franchise so far and have only twice overthrown second on a double play and both times it was because my fielder was making an off balance throw. Pretty realistic to me. Maybe the Mets are just that bad defensively. I'm using the Jays, and both John McDonald and Aaron Hill are solid defensively.

Dmrepsuga5 · 03-31-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by harvey88


	I've played 55 games in my franchise so far and have only twice overthrown second on a double play and both times it was because my fielder was making an off balance throw. Pretty realistic to me. Maybe the Mets are just that bad defensively. I'm using the Jays, and both John McDonald and Aaron Hill are solid defensively.

only twice?? I played a game vs. the Cardinals and Castillo did it twice in one game! Castillo doesn't have the kind of range he used to, but he's a 2 time gold glove winner and still makes all the routine plays and won't chuck an underhanded, non rushed throw into the outfield. I'm all about randomness and errors, but sometimes I feel like dumb animations are put in to just show that they're there, not in any good context to the game, situation, ratings, or anything.

TotesMaGotes · 03-31-2010, 01:59 PM

Yesterday I had a blow DP but it seemed natural. Kung Fu Panda was playing third, backhanded a ball, spun and tried to throw to second but on the spin he threw in into right field.

Two Seamer · 04-01-2010, 03:27 PM

The fully-loaded floater from third has always irked me. Overall, though, the timing animations are accurate and superb.

03-31-2010, 11:03 AM	#1
Dmrepsuga5 Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Mar 2009	Blown Double Plays Ok so every year I know we all get pretty frustrated with the slow turn caused by animations that make the fielders lolly gag to turn a double play, often causing the runner to be safe at first. Whether it's a brutally slow flip, 3rd baseman double pumping and lofting it to 2nd no matter what you do to preload the throw on the meter. I guess we've grown to live with these animations. This year however, there's an added blip that is driving me NUTS: middle infielder throwing the ball into the outfield to get the first out at 2nd!!! This has happened to me at least 5-10 times and I'm maybe 25 games into my Franchise with the Mets. And it always seems to happen in HUGE spots. Last night facing the Dodgers in a tie game in the top of the 9th the Dodgers had a man on 1st with Manny up and 1 out. I make a good pitch, Manny hits it right to Luis Castillo and I preload a nice soft pitch to Reyes (green on the meter since it was hit hard and no need to rush the double play) and guess what happens??? Castillo launches the ball into left field, and the flood gates open the rest of the inning. Jose Reyes has done this at least twice, Castillo has done this 3-4 times...even guys who get spot starts at 2nd or SS do it in limited time. Castillo already has 5 errors (4 of them throwing) in April (platooning with Alex Cora no less, so he has even less opportunities). he had 11 errors ALL YEAR in real life last season and 6 the year before. big league ball players don't mess up the soft toss to 2nd base this often and it's driving me mad!!!!! after the game I wanted to kill someone. aside from adjusting the throwing error sliders down (which I'm forced to do now), does anyone have any tips?

03-31-2010, 11:28 AM	#2
FrenchDavid Rookie OVR: 3 Join Date: Feb 2010	Re: Blown Double Plays You should have put more power into your throw I always play them with mid-power and turn them fine...

03-31-2010, 11:37 AM	#3
Woodweaver Developer OVR: 13 Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,147 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Blown Double Plays I have really never seen any issues turning DPs. When there are errors, they seem natural. You say you are preloading your throws. Do you max out the meter? If so, it isn't really needed on throws of @75ft or less, and it *will* increase your chance of errors. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

03-31-2010, 01:34 PM	#5
harvey88 Banned OVR: 4 Join Date: Jun 2007	Re: Blown Double Plays I've played 55 games in my franchise so far and have only twice overthrown second on a double play and both times it was because my fielder was making an off balance throw. Pretty realistic to me. Maybe the Mets are just that bad defensively. I'm using the Jays, and both John McDonald and Aaron Hill are solid defensively.

03-31-2010, 01:59 PM	#7
TotesMaGotes Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: Feb 2010	Re: Blown Double Plays Yesterday I had a blow DP but it seemed natural. Kung Fu Panda was playing third, backhanded a ball, spun and tried to throw to second but on the spin he threw in into right field.

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04-01-2010, 03:27 PM	#8
Two Seamer Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Mar 2010	Re: Blown Double Plays The fully-loaded floater from third has always irked me. Overall, though, the timing animations are accurate and superb.

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