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Old 05-17-2010, 05:27 AM   #1
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madden 11 should add a 3-4 and 4-3 dept chart

Some of us like to use the multiple defence playbook. I personaly like it because it combines 3-4 and 4-3 formations into one book. However it is not realistic if you cant have seperate dept charts for each.

Meaning if your a 3-4 team than your best DE and DT should be starting at DT and your 2nd best mlb should be moved outside and you should bring in your 3rd string mlb for the other outside. While you move your 2 outside lb's to DE.
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:13 AM   #2
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Re: madden 11 should add a 3-4 and 4-3 dept chart

Another reason is they are not able to give the cpu the AI to recognise the difference between 3-4 and 4-3 players. It's very annoying when a 3-4 team ends up with a 260lb end.
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Re: madden 11 should add a 3-4 and 4-3 dept chart

They should do like Head Coach and change players ratings if they don't fit with your scheme. So a 4-3 DE that is undersized (6'1 255) might be a 70 OVR. In a 3-4 at DE he would be like a 50 or less OVR but if you'd move him to OLB he might become 74+ but still lack the coverage ability you'd normally want in a LB.

It would be even better if you could have this player listed as a DPR in both systems so he would almost never be subbed in at short yardage situations.
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Re: madden 11 should add a 3-4 and 4-3 dept chart

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They should do like Head Coach and change players ratings if they don't fit with your scheme. So a 4-3 DE that is undersized (6'1 255) might be a 70 OVR. In a 3-4 at DE he would be like a 50 or less OVR but if you'd move him to OLB he might become 74+ but still lack the coverage ability you'd normally want in a LB.

It would be even better if you could have this player listed as a DPR in both systems so he would almost never be subbed in at short yardage situations.
I haven't played HC because I am PAL but I doubt they change a players ratings. If you move P.Manning to fb he is still the same player just in the wrong position so his overall is rubbish. They most likely had different criteria for DE position in different schemes when calculating the overall.
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I haven't played HC because I am PAL but I doubt they change a players ratings. If you move P.Manning to fb he is still the same player just in the wrong position so his overall is rubbish. They most likely had different criteria for DE position in different schemes when calculating the overall.
How can you say that when you haven't even played HC?!
I own HC 09 and yes they did have different ratings based on the scheme they were in, like sniperhare said. An undersized DE immediately took a dive in ratings when playing on a 3-4 team. And Peyton Manning would have an awful OVR rating if you converted him to FB, even Madden is able to handle that.
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Re: madden 11 should add a 3-4 and 4-3 dept chart

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How can you say that when you haven't even played HC?!
I own HC 09 and yes they did have different ratings based on the scheme they were in, like sniperhare said. An undersized DE immediately took a dive in ratings when playing on a 3-4 team. And Peyton Manning would have an awful OVR rating if you converted him to FB, even Madden is able to handle that.
100% right! If madden franchise mode could add half of HC09 it will be 100 times better. IMO
If you put manning in an spread options system his ovr will go down to around 70.
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:27 AM   #7
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Re: madden 11 should add a 3-4 and 4-3 dept chart

i think that the current depth chart system (and to a lesser extent the roster management system) is completely out of date & needs to be revised.

it didnt matter as much before, but as the game continues to get deeper they are gonna need to make little changes like this to help reflect the impact of the various systems used in game.
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i think that the current depth chart system (and to a lesser extent the roster management system) is completely out of date & needs to be revised.

it didnt matter as much before, but as the game continues to get deeper they are gonna need to make little changes like this to help reflect the impact of the various systems used in game.
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