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Old 09-26-2010, 02:32 PM   #1
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I'm usually a sim type player, and I usually play with my favorite team, the Dolphins. It's usually a challenge for me in terms of pass coverage and offense because the ratings for the CBs and safeties are pretty low and on offense the only good passing target is Marshall. I've also noticed that it seems like speed matters way too much on this game. People with fast RBs or WRs are almost unstoppable. I decided to test this by playing a ranked match as the Saints. I was up against the 49ers, and my opponent had a good record (his wins were double his losses). Once in the game, I started Reggie Bush at running back. My first run was an 80 yd TD on an HB Toss. I got the ball back, ran a few times more, and got another TD with Bush. Whenever I dropped back to pass, it seemed like all my receivers were constantly open, specifically Devery Henderson. He would easily blow by the corner almost everytime on a slant route. By halftime (when my opponent quit), I had 38 points. Reggie Bush had over 200 yds and 3 TDs on the ground. Something needs to be done about how much speed affects the game. Of course speed should be an important factor, but the fact that I can easily run this much with Reggie Bush needs to be addressed.
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Old 09-26-2010, 02:58 PM   #2
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I use sliders offline, but when I'm playing online that doesn't work.
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I'm usually a sim type player, and I usually play with my favorite team, the Dolphins. It's usually a challenge for me in terms of pass coverage and offense because the ratings for the CBs and safeties are pretty low and on offense the only good passing target is Marshall. I've also noticed that it seems like speed matters way too much on this game. People with fast RBs or WRs are almost unstoppable. I decided to test this by playing a ranked match as the Saints. I was up against the 49ers, and my opponent had a good record (his wins were double his losses). Once in the game, I started Reggie Bush at running back. My first run was an 80 yd TD on an HB Toss. I got the ball back, ran a few times more, and got another TD with Bush. Whenever I dropped back to pass, it seemed like all my receivers were constantly open, specifically Devery Henderson. He would easily blow by the corner almost everytime on a slant route. By halftime (when my opponent quit), I had 38 points. Reggie Bush had over 200 yds and 3 TDs on the ground. Something needs to be done about how much speed affects the game. Of course speed should be an important factor, but the fact that I can easily run this much with Reggie Bush needs to be addressed.
Speed kills, but it is overemphasized by Madden and much of the football media as well. Speed is crucial in a only a few plays per game - however, these are usually big plays. Most plays in football relies on timing, precision and execution. Hopefully they'll get it right in future Madden games.

EA Sports' Fifa 11 is the first of the other EA games that has decided to take a new approach on ratings as they've re-examined every attribute for Fifa 11. Fifa's producer even admitted that speed and strength were the only two ratings in Fifa 10 that really mattered. The Personality+ feature is one of the biggest innovations in sports games in recent years, and even if you don't like soccer you should check the Fifa 11 demo out to see the effect it has on gameplay. You feel that every individual rating matter.

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Old 09-27-2010, 04:36 PM   #5
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Speed kills, but it is overemphasized by Madden and much of the football media as well. Speed is crucial in a only a few plays per game - however, these are usually big plays. Most plays in football relies on timing, precision and execution. Hopefully they'll get it right in future Madden games.

EA Sports' Fifa 11 is the first of the other EA games that has decided to take a new approach on ratings as they've re-examined every attribute for Fifa 11. Fifa's producer even admitted that speed and strength were the only two ratings in Fifa 10 that really mattered. The Personality+ feature is one of the biggest innovations in sports games in recent years, and even if you don't like soccer you should check the Fifa 11 demo out to see the effect it has on gameplay. You feel that every individual rating matter.
I agree with you, speed is way overemphasized....We do a lot of season fantasy drafts and when we select players, we NEVER pick anyone that is slow but has a ton of awareness or other great attributes, because those guys just don't work in madden.....
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Old 09-27-2010, 05:06 PM   #6
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The game should definitely be better balanced in the "player skills" area on offense and defense. If anything, exaggerate teams strength's and weakness through the players but give playcallig counters to reward "correct" solid play-calling.

For example, I should not be able to beat the Rams with new England just because I'm New England. If New England puts 8 in the box, I should still be able to move the ball through mismatches in my play calling. And I still should be able to somewhat still run the ball to wear down the defense, that is my team's strength, right?
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Speed-------This is why they have the speed threshold slider.Move it up to 100 and see what you think.

Too much offense-----try raising the many defensive sliders,mainly reaction time for pass defense.

I know this doesn't help for online play but at least you can get the game where you want it offline.

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Old 09-27-2010, 06:41 PM   #8
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Your talking about speed being overpowered and your example is of you using the Saints? The Saints are highpowered in real life too.
Speed isn't overpowered if you play defense. Most speed players in Madden have a high fumble rate or stink against press coverage. They did a good job balancing it out. I can't use Bush in Madden too much because he fumbles once like every 10 touches.
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