Blown save statistic question.

[JG1986]

Hey guys, I have a quick question. If Jon Rauch blows a seventh inning lead, why does the game consider that a blown save? To my understanding, saves can only come in the ninth inning or later.

Wikipedia defines a blown save as "A blown save (abbreviated BS or B) is charged to a pitcher who enters a game in a situation which permits him to earn a save (a save situation or save opportunity), but who instead allows the tying run to score."

The seventh inning should not constitute a save situation, correct?

Wasn't completely sure, so any help is appreciated!

[sdf4977]

Quote: Originally Posted by JG1986

Hey guys, I have a quick question. If Jon Rauch blows a seventh inning lead, why does the game consider that a blown save? To my understanding, saves can only come in the ninth inning or later. Wikipedia defines a blown save as "A blown save (abbreviated BS or B) is charged to a pitcher who enters a game in a situation which permits him to earn a save (a save situation or save opportunity), but who instead allows the tying run to score." The seventh inning should not constitute a save situation, correct? Wasn't completely sure, so any help is appreciated!

It is a save situation cause that reliever could pitch for 3 inning and get the save

[JG1986]

Quote: Originally Posted by sdf4977

It is a save situation cause that reliever could pitch for 3 inning and get the save

Yup, that makes sense. Haha thank you for clearing that up!

[ktd1976]

Quote: Originally Posted by JG1986

Hey guys, I have a quick question. If Jon Rauch blows a seventh inning lead, why does the game consider that a blown save? To my understanding, saves can only come in the ninth inning or later. Wikipedia defines a blown save as "A blown save (abbreviated BS or B) is charged to a pitcher who enters a game in a situation which permits him to earn a save (a save situation or save opportunity), but who instead allows the tying run to score." The seventh inning should not constitute a save situation, correct? Wasn't completely sure, so any help is appreciated!

here, this article will kind of clarify it.
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news...k_cws&c_id=cws

The game has it right. The MLB makes no distinction between a blown save, and a blown hold.

A "hold" is credited to a reliever who would be credited with a save if the situation he was pitching in would be in the last inning. For example, Pitcher A comes into the game in the 8th inning, protecting a 1 run lead. If this were the 9th inning, it would be a save situation. Pitcher A finishes the inning, keeping the tying run from scoring. If this were the last inning, he would be credited with a "save" but since it isn't, he is credited with a "hold"

If Pitcher A would allow the tying run in that situation, he would receive a "blown Save" because there is no statistic for a blown hold.

[ZOMB13AUTOPILOT]

Yes. In baseball a pitcher can qualify for a save if he enters the game in the 7th inning or later with a 1, 2 or 3 run lead and remains in for the remainder of the game or he can enter with 1 out in the 9th or later if the game tying run is on deck.

[JG1986]

Quote: Originally Posted by ktd1976

here, this article will kind of clarify it. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news...k_cws&c_id=cws The game has it right. The MLB makes no distinction between a blown save, and a blown hold. A "hold" is credited to a reliever who would be credited with a save if the situation he was pitching in would be in the last inning. For example, Pitcher A comes into the game in the 8th inning, protecting a 1 run lead. If this were the 9th inning, it would be a save situation. Pitcher A finishes the inning, keeping the tying run from scoring. If this were the last inning, he would be credited with a "save" but since it isn't, he is credited with a "hold" If Pitcher A would allow the tying run in that situation, he would receive a "blown Save" because there is no statistic for a blown hold.

Gotcha. I wonder why the MLB doesn't keep track of blown holds separate from blown saves. I'm not really a baseball noob or anything, I just haven't questioned this before.

[Eleanor62]

It is a save situation cause that reliever could pitch for 3 inning and get the save

[Redacted01]

Quote: Originally Posted by ktd1976

here, this article will kind of clarify it. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news...k_cws&c_id=cws The game has it right. The MLB makes no distinction between a blown save, and a blown hold. A "hold" is credited to a reliever who would be credited with a save if the situation he was pitching in would be in the last inning. For example, Pitcher A comes into the game in the 8th inning, protecting a 1 run lead. If this were the 9th inning, it would be a save situation. Pitcher A finishes the inning, keeping the tying run from scoring. If this were the last inning, he would be credited with a "save" but since it isn't, he is credited with a "hold" If Pitcher A would allow the tying run in that situation, he would receive a "blown Save" because there is no statistic for a blown hold.

This is why. It has nothing to do with a possible 3-inning save. It has to do with the fact that had it been the 9th and not the 7th, you are pitching in a "save" situation, it just doesn't seem like it since it isn't the last inning.