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Old 08-01-2014, 08:14 PM   #1
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Fifa 15 emotion means nothing

So sayeth the words of nick channon.

Question posed to him in the latest oxm:
You said the emotions are an aesthetic that won't affect gameplay. What's the thinking behind that?

His response:
What's really important to us is the connection you have with the game and the team. If the players don't react as they would in the real world, you don't get that same connection. We didn't want to change the gameplay, because that could lead to exploits or become frustrating. Anytime you start changing gameplay you have to be careful, and we didn't want to do that with this feature this year. We are also limiting the reactions you will see. You'll see reactions in the real world that you're not going to see here.


So this means you can miss 5 sitters in the first half and your team mate will shake his head in disbelief and nothing happens. You can also slide tackle the CPU all game long and they will get pissy but nothing happens.

Hearing all the words he has said I know 2 things for sure about fifa 15.

1. The CPU will park the bus, expect this to happen way too often.
2. Messi will only use his left foot.

Why do they keep saying these two things over and over again.
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Old 08-01-2014, 09:52 PM   #2
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I was really hoping it would have at least a tempory impact on players ratings. I thought this would be a good way to make each match feel different and unique. I do understand the reasoning though, because messing with the gameplay too much can throw everything out of place. I think if they tuned this properly, it would go a long way in making each match feel different, further affect stragety, and increase the overall replay value of the game.
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Old 08-03-2014, 08:46 PM   #3
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I'm actually glad they used their heads with this and didn't go overboard like they do with some new features. I've heard several interviews with Nick and he was quite forthright on the issue, saying that the dev team didn't feel that having emotion affect ratings was the way to go this year because they couldn't find a meaningful way to balance it. And quite frankly, the crying that would go on by those penalized by the emotion engine would be incessant. So as it stands the emotion engine adds a bit of drama/immersion to the game without intruding on gameplay, I'm OK with that.
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:25 AM   #4
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I wish the new (highly touted) "Emotion" engine had some type of impact on the game other than simply aesthetic.

It could have been as simple as an On/Off option, or a slider to control how much effect is applied to ratings/momentum/aggression etc. Yes, it's very cool that we get a more visually realistic experience, but I was just hoping for so much more.
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:39 AM   #5
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Re: Fifa 15 emotion means nothing

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I wish the new (highly touted) "Emotion" engine had some type of impact on the game other than simply aesthetic.
Personally, I have never been a fan of sports video games tyring to capture intangibles such as emotion, momentum, chemistry, hot/cold streaks etc.

How would you measure it in real life? To my knowledge, statistics are not kept for each player, split based upon thier emotional state. And if you can't measure it, how do you apply an alogarithim to it?
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:06 AM   #6
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Personally, I have never been a fan of sports video games tyring to capture intangibles such as emotion, momentum, chemistry, hot/cold streaks etc.

How would you measure it in real life? To my knowledge, statistics are not kept for each player, split based upon thier emotional state. And if you can't measure it, how do you apply an alogarithim to it?
That's the beauty of "emotion" in a sporting event, since it's not a tangible effect that can be measured makes it something that you could implement into a video game with some subtle behind the scenes effects.

I believe Konami was able to achieve this effect via their "Heart" system. Also many games have implemented a "chemistry" system.
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That's the beauty of "emotion" in a sporting event, since it's not a tangible effect that can be measured makes it something that you could implement into a video game with some subtle behind the scenes effects.

I believe Konami was able to achieve this effect via their "Heart" system. Also many games have implemented a "chemistry" system.
But to program it into a video game, you DO need a measurable value that you can put into a mathematical equation. So then we need a developer to calculate all the situations that would make a player frustrated. And players have different tempraments, so we need a rating for that. And how much do ratings decline when frustrated? It is complicated.

I have never liked these features in sports games. In my experience, they have either been unnoticable, or they behave oddly as they take certain things into consideration but not others.
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Personally, I have never been a fan of sports video games tyring to capture intangibles such as emotion, momentum, chemistry, hot/cold streaks etc.

How would you measure it in real life? To my knowledge, statistics are not kept for each player, split based upon thier emotional state. And if you can't measure it, how do you apply an alogarithim to it?
Not even form?

I like the idea of form being replicated in a video game because it adds incentive to not just playing the better rated player(s). Now that form needs to be based on performance. Some might find this tedious but I feel like as a manager of a club you should be able to set individual performance goals.
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