Cutting off Blocks - reading your blocks - will Madden 16 deliver?

[illiterateoption]

In Madden 15 there is absolutely no way users can consistently read blocks and cut off of them to gain extra yards. The blocking assignments and engage/disengage animation sets sabotage any ability to set up blocks as a ball carrier and trust your blockers to stay engaged. Madden 25 out performs Madden 15 in this regard but its still not in a way I'd consider adequate for next-gen football.

Question: Do you think Madden 16 will deliver the goods when it comes to its blocking logic, engagement/disengage animations, and finally allow for users to cut off blocks, maybe even set-up multiple blocks, to gain additional yards? Or will it be more of the same - slam into the line and watch the infinity engine takeover?

[rws591]

Quote: Originally Posted by illiterateoption

it'll be more of the same - slam into the line and watch the infinity engine takeover

They fixed blocking man... that's why they moved onto DB/WR interactions...

[4thQtrStre5S]

I believe there was talk on twitter involving Clint Oldenburg, from EA, about fixing line play?

Don't quote me; merely passing along what I recall reading in a post last night..

The line play needs some serious help - the major issue is being stuck to your own player's back like velcro..

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S

I believe there was talk on twitter involving Clint Oldenburg, from EA, about fixing line play? Don't quote me; merely passing along what I recall reading in a post last night.. The line play needs some serious help - the major issue is being stuck to your own player's back like velcro..

Clint has tweeted in the past that he believes madden has the best blocking in any video game. Just yesterday he tweeted this:

https://twitter.com/ClintOldenburg/s...69147696951296

The madden team does not believe there is anything wrong with the line play. The engage/release with win/loss is fine to casuals who don't really read blocks, and it was worked on last year. I wouldn't expect anything but some tweaking this year.

Like the tethered passing system vs route based style, madden' s blocking is badly outdated next to APF where you could read blocks and call stunts separate from the secondary calls. I don't expect anything to change though.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

Clint has tweeted in the past that he believes madden has the best blocking in any video game. Just yesterday he tweeted this: https://twitter.com/ClintOldenburg/s...69147696951296 The madden team does not believe there is anything wrong with the line play. The engage/release with win/loss is fine to casuals who don't really read blocks, and it was worked on last year. I wouldn't expect anything but some tweaking this year. Like the tethered passing system vs route based style, madden' s blocking is badly outdated next to APF where you could read blocks and call stunts separate from the secondary calls. I don't expect anything to change though.

So, KJ, the link you provided, Clint states we've made a good amount of progress and addressed some of the community's concerns.

If that is true, then they do feel that there are some things wrong with line play, no?

[kjcheezhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

So, KJ, the link you provided, Clint states we've made a good amount of progress and addressed some of the community's concerns. If that is true, then they do feel that there are some things wrong with line play, no?

His response was about Madden 16 in general the way I read it, not specifically regarding line play changes. So no, I don't feel they think anything is wrong with line play.

Clint has tweeted he believes it's better than anything before. I think he means that sincerely.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

His response was about Madden 16 in general the way I read it, not specifically regarding line play changes. So no, I don't feel they think anything is wrong with line play. Clint has tweeted he believes it's better than anything before. I think he means that sincerely.

One of the reasons why I don't go on Twitter that much, it's difficult to read what was said first, etc.....

what line play issues do you not like?

That was a question Clint asked, but I can see where you thought the next response was from Clint was about Madden in general.

He did tell RM that he addressed most of his concerns on line play, though. So, that part, yes, I do feel Clint feels that line play needed to be addressed, wouldn't you agree?

[4thQtrStre5S]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

His response was about Madden 16 in general the way I read it, not specifically regarding line play changes. So no, I don't feel they think anything is wrong with line play. Clint has tweeted he believes it's better than anything before. I think he means that sincerely.

Sounds to me like he is stating some fine tuning has been done for M16.

"Clint Oldenburg ‏@ClintOldenburg May 23
@ShutdownSafety when 16 launches, you're gonna have to make new content because many of your 15 videos got cleaned up."

^^^^ Seems to indicate that the moody video from this twitter thread had some issues that are now cleaned up in M16.