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CleveCluby · 08-22-2016, 08:33 PM

Like last years M16 almost every Rookie that comes out of the draft in M17, regardless of how good he is always has UNDISCIPLINED for his penalty rating, which Always causes additional penalties. I realize that you can edit this, which is nice because you can never earn enough points to change it. I was just wondering if this is by design or is it a bug.. it's hard to believe that every rookie is undisciplined. They can't all be that bad..

DeuceDouglas · 08-22-2016, 08:54 PM

I could see it being by design if it's something that can be upgraded with XP but I don't know if that's the case or not. If it is, how much does it cost to purchase versus other traits/attributes?

Zeffy · 08-22-2016, 08:59 PM

Younger players commit more penalties than veterans... Just upgrade it if you want them to turn into more disciplined players as they age. Plenty of guys clean up their game over time just as they get better technique

SyncereBlackout · 08-22-2016, 09:10 PM

This is great news IMO. Now we have yet another thing to consider when saving XP for our rookies. Awr, some skill attribute or decreasing penalties.

Although it's been reported that gaining XP is easier this year, the undisciplined trait is good news

VaderS1 · 08-22-2016, 09:27 PM

Rookie discipline being low will add to the coaching consideration during prep. Should be a nice little twist.

BadAssHskr · 08-22-2016, 09:31 PM

I agree, sounds like the only logical move, undisciplined rookies.

Great news if infact true.

Mike Lowe · 08-23-2016, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeffy


	Younger players commit more penalties than veterans... Just upgrade it if you want them to turn into more disciplined players as they age. Plenty of guys clean up their game over time just as they get better technique

The thing is though, they don't change over time. The entire leagues stays undisciplined. Sim ahead and see for yourself.

CleveCluby · 08-23-2016, 12:45 AM

That was my point. They never get better, in a 5 year sim, 5 year old rookies never became normal. Unless you personally increase them, The league is filled with undisciplined players. I understand that we or human owners can edit or progress them, But CPU teams are filled with them. So I am thinking this has to be a bug and it is exactly the same a last year. If they would increase or progress on there own, that would be a great feature, But they don't.

08-22-2016, 08:33 PM	#1
CleveCluby Pro OVR: 2 Join Date: Feb 2003	Almost every Rookie in the draft is UNDISIPLENED. Like last years M16 almost every Rookie that comes out of the draft in M17, regardless of how good he is always has UNDISCIPLINED for his penalty rating, which Always causes additional penalties. I realize that you can edit this, which is nice because you can never earn enough points to change it. I was just wondering if this is by design or is it a bug.. it's hard to believe that every rookie is undisciplined. They can't all be that bad.. __________________ When I do something right, No one ever remembers. When I do something wrong, No one ever forgets.!

08-22-2016, 08:54 PM	#2
DeuceDouglas Madden Dev Team OVR: 22 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,313	Re: Almost every Rookie in the draft is UNDISIPLENED. I could see it being by design if it's something that can be upgraded with XP but I don't know if that's the case or not. If it is, how much does it cost to purchase versus other traits/attributes? __________________ Madden Franchise Mode: It's Time to Be Classic Twitter Last edited by DeuceDouglas; 08-22-2016 at 09:34 PM.

08-22-2016, 08:59 PM	#3
Zeffy Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Jul 2014	Re: Almost every Rookie in the draft is UNDISIPLENED. Younger players commit more penalties than veterans... Just upgrade it if you want them to turn into more disciplined players as they age. Plenty of guys clean up their game over time just as they get better technique Sheba2011, JBH3, extremeskins04 and 1 others like this.

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SyncereBlackout Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 829	Re: Almost every Rookie in the draft is UNDISIPLENED. This is great news IMO. Now we have yet another thing to consider when saving XP for our rookies. Awr, some skill attribute or decreasing penalties. Although it's been reported that gaining XP is easier this year, the undisciplined trait is good news Sheba2011, Ziza9Noles94, briz1046 and 1 others like this. __________________ Grown Man League (GML) - Commish (PS4) NY Jets NY Yankees NY Rangers Florida Gators

08-22-2016, 09:27 PM	#5
VaderS1 Rookie OVR: 3 Join Date: Oct 2006	Re: Almost every Rookie in the draft is UNDISIPLENED. Rookie discipline being low will add to the coaching consideration during prep. Should be a nice little twist.

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08-22-2016, 09:31 PM	#6
BadAssHskr XSX OVR: 9 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,429	Re: Almost every Rookie in the draft is UNDISIPLENED. I agree, sounds like the only logical move, undisciplined rookies. Great news if infact true. __________________ "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."

08-23-2016, 12:45 AM	#8
CleveCluby Pro OVR: 2 Join Date: Feb 2003	Re: Almost every Rookie in the draft is UNDISIPLENED. That was my point. They never get better, in a 5 year sim, 5 year old rookies never became normal. Unless you personally increase them, The league is filled with undisciplined players. I understand that we or human owners can edit or progress them, But CPU teams are filled with them. So I am thinking this has to be a bug and it is exactly the same a last year. If they would increase or progress on there own, that would be a great feature, But they don't. Mike Lowe likes this. __________________ When I do something right, No one ever remembers. When I do something wrong, No one ever forgets.!

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