What 2K Can Learn From Blitz: The League

[Steve_OS]

As we all roll with the haymakers and below-the-belt shots that 2020 hurls at us, the...

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[AUTHENTICNFLNBA]

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Hell no..... Get rid of these articles!! Get it out y'all mind... Visual Concepts did not make a deal with the NFL to make a goofy booty game.. BLITZ/STREET/PLAYGROUND is dead... Read between the lines... SPORTS GAMERS ONLINE dumping vids for clicks and it's no where near the road less traveled!!! EXPECT APF ( TYPE ) GAME with more details you can fathom and a mobile game!!! QUIET AS KEPT: THE NFL WAS BLOWN AWAY BY WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAD COME UP WITH and you can bet your *** that as soon as the NFL LICENSE runs its course, the NFLPA will stick their fingers in the pie too.. Stop it OS!!! Y'all know something unbelievable is coming and it's not no arcade ****... NON-SIMULATION means something totally different. The only reason why EA spoke out was to keep their investors involved.. The NFL handled their business and VC will swoop in for the kill AUGUST 2021... JUST WAIT UNTIL YALL HERE ABOUT THE TV LICENSING 2K MANAGED TO COME UP WITH!! That'll confirm that they aren't working on some rinky-dink game!! watch and see..

[tsbmolina]

Quote: Originally Posted by AUTHENTICNFLNBA

Hell no..... Get rid of these articles!! Get it out y'all mind... Visual Concepts did not make a deal with the NFL to make a goofy booty game.. BLITZ/STREET/PLAYGROUND is dead... Read between the lines... SPORTS GAMERS ONLINE dumping vids for clicks and it's no where near the road less traveled!!! EXPECT APF ( TYPE ) GAME with more details you can fathom and a mobile game!!! QUIET AS KEPT: THE NFL WAS BLOWN AWAY BY WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAD COME UP WITH and you can bet your *** that as soon as the NFL LICENSE runs its course, the NFLPA will stick their fingers in the pie too.. Stop it OS!!! Y'all know something unbelievable is coming and it's not no arcade ****... NON-SIMULATION means something totally different. The only reason why EA spoke out was to keep their investors involved.. The NFL handled their business and VC will swoop in for the kill AUGUST 2021... JUST WAIT UNTIL YALL HERE ABOUT THE TV LICENSING 2K MANAGED TO COME UP WITH!! That'll confirm that they aren't working on some rinky-dink game!! watch and see..

What tv licensing do you speak of? ESPN?

[BarfytheOwl]

I still play Blitz and Blitz II sometimes. They're good games, but I don't think 2K is aiming for something like that long-term.

Also I still love the soundtracks for both games. KoRn & Nas, Swollen Members, Skindred, B. Real, Bayside, etc., hell yes.

As much as I love the new styles of music and new artists, most sports games soundtracks are stale as hell, and don't have enough diversity. I'd love for a return to the days where OutKast, Wylde Bunch, and Nappy Roots were mixed in with Underøath, Mastodon, and Serafin.

[JayhawkerStL]

From the success of the Blitz franchise, I think the game has more of what not to do. It’s not like it became a part of our annual tradition. I’m sure it is good, but 2K is not taking up this fight for two poor selling games.

That’s why I don’t think we are going to see it be arcade on that level. It will be 11 on 11, but it’s lack of simulation of the NFL is going to have to do primarily with not replicating the NFL. They will have real players, with legends mixed in, but the game will lack the teams, schedule, and probably the stadiums. I would expect the presentation to get upgraded, and it will be a bit more over the top than APF 2K8. There will not be a way to customize the game into an NFL season.

I won’t pretend to have a clue how good the game will be. No idea on if they are reskinning 2K8, or building from the ground up. No idea who is working on it, or if they have the chops to roll out a brand new football game engine.

[illwill10]

Quote: Originally Posted by JayhawkerStL

From the success of the Blitz franchise, I think the game has more of what not to do. It’s not like it became a part of our annual tradition. I’m sure it is good, but 2K is not taking up this fight for two poor selling games. That’s why I don’t think we are going to see it be arcade on that level. It will be 11 on 11, but it’s lack of simulation of the NFL is going to have to do primarily with not replicating the NFL. They will have real players, with legends mixed in, but the game will lack the teams, schedule, and probably the stadiums. I would expect the presentation to get upgraded, and it will be a bit more over the top than APF 2K8. There will not be a way to customize the game into an NFL season. I won’t pretend to have a clue how good the game will be. No idea on if they are reskinning 2K8, or building from the ground up. No idea who is working on it, or if they have the chops to roll out a brand new football game engine.

I wouldn't mind another Blitz game on its own. I thought Blitz the League was fun. Not for 2k though, plus NFL wouldn't want to be associated with blitz style play anymore.
Yeah I don't think it will be arcade like that or too over the top either. My worse case would be NFL Playground. I'm sure it would be "fun" but not my thing. My max arcade style would be NFL Street. I do think they could get 11-on-11 football, but would have a replicating the NFL in a different way. Like you said, maybe not use stadiums. They haven't signed a deal with the NFLPA yet, which could happen in coming months. But maybe they don't use real players and just the teams. Or how the way they approach off season could be different. Maybe not a traditional free agency or draft. Where I feel the simulation restrictions might not have to deal with gameplay it self, maybe just have the NFL is replicated.
We don't have a clue on how game engine would be built. I don't know if they could/would re-skin 2k8 to a more modern look and feel. We don't know if they have any developers that are still around from those days. Plus 2k8 game engine was an upgraded 2k5 engine. When the 6th to 7th generation transition happened, 2k keep the game engines in tact unlike EA who had their sports games build from the ground up. But at same time, I don't know if they would build from ground up if they are planning to release in a year. When they reveal the license deal a couple weeks ago, NFL said 2k was in "early development". We don't know how "early" 2k is in development. I think 2k would drop their game in July in order to get a month ahead of Madden. So is 16-18 months enough time to build a game engine from ground up. Even then, you have shave months off that timeline since they will be hyping up game from 3-4 months out so game engine would have to be done. So would essentially 12 months be enough time. My hope would be either re-skin 2k8 engine. Or at least take a lot of inspiration from that engine.

[JayhawkerStL]

My guess is still that they are going in an APF direction, so a full NFLPA agreement isn’t as necessary. Cost wise, it might be cheaper to target who they want than get everyone. They may even use 2K8 style generic guys to round out rosters. Or, the NFLPA agreement might still happen.

It could get interesting if 2K puts a dent in Madden’s Ultimate Team revenue.

Just like Microsoft realizing that by expanding where gamers could play, it reduced the importance of console sales. They sell Xbox Live Gold and Gamepass to more gamers, increasing revenue without needing to increase console sales. Obviously, the hope is to cut into Sony’s sales, but mostly, it’s just to increase their own revenue.

So 2K could use their version of MUT to gain mindshare and drive revenue without matching EA’s sales of Madden.

This is mostly what I see happening. What I’m hoping to see is custom online leagues.

[AUTHENTICNFLNBA]

Quote: Originally Posted by JayhawkerStL

My guess is still that they are going in an APF direction, so a full NFLPA agreement isn’t as necessary. Cost wise, it might be cheaper to target who they want than get everyone. They may even use 2K8 style generic guys to round out rosters. Or, the NFLPA agreement might still happen. It could get interesting if 2K puts a dent in Madden’s Ultimate Team revenue. Just like Microsoft realizing that by expanding where gamers could play, it reduced the importance of console sales. They sell Xbox Live Gold and Gamepass to more gamers, increasing revenue without needing to increase console sales. Obviously, the hope is to cut into Sony’s sales, but mostly, it’s just to increase their own revenue. So 2K could use their version of MUT to gain mindshare and drive revenue without matching EA’s sales of Madden. This is mostly what I see happening. What I’m hoping to see is custom online leagues.

THE ENGINE IS YEARS IN THE MAKING!! No way " VISUAL CONCEPTS " walked in that meeting empty handed..